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Dylan Erikson, Wed 14 Dec, 2016 11:07 PM
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    So she is potentially going to be the lead character?
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    It sounds like it.

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    #4
    While I have always admired Star Trek's leading the way in diversity and breaking barriers and stigmas, that was never the central theme to any of the series... but subtly and ingeniously placed so as not to draw overly harsh criticism. Their method worked wonderfully, exposing a world to new ideas and altering thinking of many a fan. My fear is that this "diversity" theme becomes the focus and not the actually story being told. If this series becomes agenda driven rather than story driven it will be doomed from the start.
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    Of the four shows/movies, not counting Discovery as it hasn't debuted yet, I only know of her performance in "The Walking Dead". Only based on my extensive viewing of that, I can only raise a eyebrow a-la Spock and ponder the decision as "Illogical".

    Now, I don't know if her flat acting is due to the flat writing given her character on TWD... but I will say, on any of her side stories in TWD, I tend to fight the involuntary sensation of having my eyeballs role-up inside my head. Now, if you were going to tell me that Danai Gurira (Michonne)... I'd be pretty excited as even with not vocalizing her emotions/thoughts, she is very deep and amazing in portraying her plight in the show. Heck, I'm going to throw this out there, but come on... Steven Yuen is pretty good. We need redemption for Harry's poor and weak writers. Smile

    Anyhow, I'll try to keep an open mind and hope all of the new caster members deliver something great. They will certainly have big shoes to fill as we are probably going to be overly critical of anything Star Trek. A trait we as a community likely share. heh.
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    I'm going to maintain cautious optimism, because I love Trek and I want to see it succeed.

    As I was reading Stormy's comment about agenda driven episodes, it occurred to me that I thought Trek always had an agenda. As Stormy pointed out aptly, ToS was essentially a vehicle for Roddenberry to comment on and explore politics, religion, race and gender relations, and a whole array of hot button issues. This is really the core of good science fiction, i.e. telling morality plays about the modern world with trappings that don't immediately turn off an audience.

    I actually like agenda driven story telling, as it gives me food for thought and helps me flex my oft disused critical thinking skills - even when the agenda isn't mine. Perhaps I get a new perspective and rethink my position, or perhaps I get a new perspective and realize I'm right but for new reasons. I actually like having an agenda to consider.
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    I have high hopes and aspirations for discovery.... it's months away now not long! Has a lot to do for us trekkies!
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     –  Last edited by Strathkin; Sun 15 Jan, 2017 5:57 AM.
    I think I'm still on the sizeable majority of people who think the ship was very poorly designed. Even the NX-01 looked far better even for an earlier generation of Starship.

    ▪ I think the largest problem most trek fan's have is the warp pylon's, the two flat triangle's attached to the secondary hull. They look like something you'd expect from a Klingon ship of this era, especially when the NX, Constitution, and 1701-A pylon's were sleek.

    Thumbs down

    Still I am a die hard Star Trek fan so I would very much like to see Discovery do well, the ship just seems disliked by many trek fan's or appears to be the case.
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    If we make the saucer a little larger, bring the neck-saucer join forward a bit and raise up the nacelles, we could have a pretty nice looking ship. Maybe trim some of the corners on the secondary hull to make 'er look a little less square and put a dome on the buzzard collectors, maybe round the nacelles a bit more, I think that would be a vast improvement. Oh, then take out that odd ring from the saucer, make the main deflector big enough to do it's job and integrate the impulse manifolds into the rear of the saucer (I cannot remember if that is where they actually are).

    I appear to be ranting, and every adjustment I suggest seems to be edging toward a constitution class. Oh well, at least we are aiming for something that looks good, eh? Wink
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    I don't think the outside of the ship is going to matter too much, a lot is probably going to take place on-board!

    Maybe it was all just a big troll and they will smooth it out Tongue Out
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     –  Last edited by Strathkin; Sun 15 Jan, 2017 6:31 AM.
    For me I think the rectangular secondary hull & triangular pylons really require some adaptation. But they are going to do what they are going to do, all we can do is hope there will be many more things we fall in love about the series.

    Right now I really am praying for the writing team to be developing some good theme's to examine, conflicts with new or less familiar races, interesting character developments, along with some familiar elements and a few complete new twists that will capture the audience early on and keep them coming back for more...

    It really would be amazing to be working with the team who is developing the show. One can only hope many of the idea's they are coming up with will be some really great ones. I'm sure we'd all like to see more Star Trek series in the future, so hope it captures a good audience in first several weeks.

    I wish success for the production team and all involved with the new series.
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    I wonder what the uniforms will be like. Will they go with TOS ones or maybe something new? Then also we have the handheld phasers. We could be seeing the return of the good old ray-gun-esque phasers. Oh I miss them.
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    I'm only watching this because of Michelle Yeoh. As I think this is going to be a liberally agenda driven show in vein of a soap opera, I expect this to not succeed and be cancelled quickly.
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