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Axanar Fan Film not Fair Use - US Courts

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    #1
    The US courts have ruled that the Axanar film does not fall under fair use, it will go to a trial by jury in the future, which could decide the fate of the film - http://www.wired.co.uk/article/star-...-use-copyright
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    Yeah, thats unfortunate. It'll probably take another 2 years to solve. It's not even about Axanar anymore. It's about fan films in general and how far they can take them, Paramount is going to fight this tooth and nail to set the example.
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    I don't think it's about the wider matter of fan films, some speculation is that it's due to being in a similar timeframe as Discovery is.
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    #4
    I don't think it's about the wider matter of fan films, some speculation is that it's due to being in a similar timeframe as Discovery is.
    Whilst I don't like the law suit, it does make complete sense why they would go ahead with it, especially if Discovery is in the same time frame. Most people who support Axanar fully would probably shun me, but I completely see why and don't think CBS is too wrong, if that tunrs out to be the case. Obviously, I really want Axanar to go forward as I invested in it, but sadly Star Trek is CBS's property, end of.
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    #5
    I wonder why CBS don't just negotiate to take the project over, since work has already been put in and it would probably be better aired than never seeing the light of day. A real shame if no one gets to see it.
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    #6
     –  Last edited by Strathkin; Sat 14 Jan, 2017 2:59 AM.
    Yeah almost makes you wish Disney bought out the franchise as they own ABC. Perhaps then we might see a slightly larger investment in the prime Universe with more movies & TV series... Still I don't think the Axanar suit would disappear bordering too close to production quality, often far higher than the ToS TV or Movies along with many of the earlier TNG series or even some of the more recent productions... Cry

    The fact you had some recognizable actor's, production, and special effects name's possibly didn't help. It's too bad they didn't instead use that talent to create a new space story that freed them to envision a better vision for humanity that saw the world united around exploration and more.

    Although agree with Seven. If they rewrite part's of Axanar they could possibly release it as a Prime Time Movie paid for by the advertising sponsor's and even make a profit if done right. I just suspect they however want to set the precedent to limit or set the guidelines for others who try something similar, rather than rewarding (in part) some of those behind Axanar even though it shows fan's are interested when things are done well or at a higher quality.

    It's just be nice to see a lot more Prime Universe work being developed. Redface
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    I don't think it's about the wider matter of fan films, some speculation is that it's due to being in a similar timeframe as Discovery is.
    You could say this, however this is ultimately the most publicised fan film lawsuit.

    If this case passes, more cases will pass in favor of the little guy.

    This case will have a affect on all fan films going forward if it wants to or not.
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    I do agree on that point, I don't know why CBS doesn't just take Axanar under its wing and make it better, as that'll make CBS more money in the long run and a better reputation, plus people would pay for more Axanar. Ultimately though, it comes down to the CBS executives not caring about Star Trek.
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    This case will have a affect on all fan films going forward if it wants to or not.
    For very small fan films, I don't think it'll be an issue, it's the ones that make money that are a problem. Axanar is profit making, off the back of someone elses IP, which is wrong. It's no different to making the same product as someone and selling it for slightly less, you are breaking copyright law.
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    I don't feel like they are making a profit off of it. He did give himself a salary so he could devote his time to it full time, but I don't feel like that was unreasonable considering the demand for it.

    Alec Peters is very transparent about everything.

    But I hope they pull through because I'd like to see more high quality fan films in the future.

    Whatever the case, it's not for me to decide.

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    While not unreasonable, it is the law. Without established procedures, the whole system would fall apart. This is an example of when it doesn't work out favourably.
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    #12
    http://www.trektoday.com/content/201...it-settlement/
    Looks like they resolve there dispute