[Allan Hood]

I just learned that Scotty was ordered to the USS Excelsior as the "captain of engineering" in The Search for Spock. Does that mean Spock held the rank of "captain of science?" Did Spock have his own command?

Would that mean there's also a "captain of security?" Are these questions ever addressed in the non-canon novels?

[aceman67]

I do know that...

After Scotty is injured and can't resume his duties as Captain of the USS Challenger (A Starfleet Corps of Engineers vessel) during the opening events of the novel "Indisquishable From Magic", then Commander LaForge (on loan from the Enterprise) is promoted to Captain of the Challenger. When that ship is lost during the novel's finale, he returns to the Enterprise E, where Picard grants him the position of "Captain of Engineering" out of respect for his rank and to give him a place in the ships chain of command.

This was promptly undone the next novel though, with LaForge demoting himself to Commander, the reasoning given is that Starfleet basically said: "Take another Command and leave the Enterprise, or lose the rank".

Normally, there is only one officer with the Rank of Captain on a Starfleet vessel, so that only one officer has absolute authority over their crew. Kirk's Enterprise was an exception, given the ship's pedegree, and with the exception of what I posted in the spoiler tag, Kirk's Enterprise is the only other mention of Captain's serving on the same vessel.

[Allan Hood]

I do know that...

After Scotty is injured and can't resume his duties as Captain of the USS Challenger (A Starfleet Corps of Engineers vessel) during the opening events of the novel "Indisquishable From Magic", then Commander LaForge (on loan from the Enterprise) is promoted to Captain of the Challenger. When that ship is lost during the novel's finale, he returns to the Enterprise E, where Picard grants him the position of "Captain of Engineering" out of respect for his rank and to give him a place in the ships chain of command.

This was promptly undone the next novel though, with LaForge demoting himself to Commander, the reasoning given is that Starfleet basically said: "Take another Command and leave the Enterprise, or lose the rank".

Normally, there is only one officer with the Rank of Captain on a Starfleet vessel, so that only one officer has absolute authority over their crew. Kirk's Enterprise was an exception, given the ship's pedegree, and with the exception of what I posted in the spoiler tag, Kirk's Enterprise is the only other mention of Captain's serving on the same vessel.

I got to check that out. Starfleet gave La Forge an ultimatum about his rank? I guess the logic is that they could use someone with that rank and experience elsewhere?

[Allan Hood]

Normally, there is only one officer with the Rank of Captain on a Starfleet vessel, so that only one officer has absolute authority over their crew. Kirk's Enterprise was an exception, given the ship's pedegree, and with the exception of what I posted in the spoiler tag, Kirk's Enterprise is the only other mention of Captain's serving on the same vessel.

As for the other questions, does that mean Spock held the rank of "captain of science?" Did Spock have his own command?

Would that mean there's also a "captain of security?" Are these questions ever addressed in the non-canon novels?

[Dark]

No, Kirk was just being Kirk, ignoring and breaking rules and protocol.

From what I gather from modern navies, on very large ships the XO may have the rank of Captain, but their position on the ship is still just "Executive Officer".

Logically, regardless of the rank the Chief Medical Officer or Chief Engineer holds, their position would remain Chief Medical Officer or Chief Engineer.

[Allan Hood]

No, Kirk was just being Kirk, ignoring and breaking rules and protocol.

From what I gather from modern navies, on very large ships the XO may have the rank of Captain, but their position on the ship is still just "Executive Officer".

Logically, regardless of the rank the Chief Medical Officer or Chief Engineer holds, their position would remain Chief Medical Officer or Chief Engineer.

You think that was Kirk making Scotty "Captain of Engineering?" Captain of Engineering is the title given to chief engineers who hold the rank of captain. There really is a Captain of Engineering rank in real life.

Did Spock hold the rank of "Captain of Science?" OR did Spock have his own command at one point? What was the name of his ship?

Would that mean there's also a "captain of security?" Are these questions ever addressed in the non-canon novels?

[Allan Hood]

And then there was Vice Admiral Toddman, member of Starfleet Security.

He was "wearing an operations division gold admiral's uniform. To date, he is the only 24th century era flag officer to not wear command red as his division color. However, there is a 23rd century precedent to this practice, as all TOS flag officers wore command division gold except for two Commodores, Stone and Stocker. "
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Toddman

[Bridger]

Spock was a normal Command Division Captain, back than he was in Command of the Enterprise when she was used to train Cadets STII.

Scotty was promoted and moved to the Excelsior by Admiral Morrow, and probably after saving Earth from the Whale Probe, they did not care that much if there are actually three Captains serving on one ship.

[Allan Hood]

Spock was a normal Command Division Captain, back than he was in Command of the Enterprise when she was used to train Cadets STII.

Scotty was promoted and moved to the Excelsior by Admiral Morrow, and probably after saving Earth from the Whale Probe, they did not care that much if there are actually three Captains serving on one ship.

Do you mean that Spock must have switched tracts and went into command? Were the three captains all assigned to one ship or was that just circumstance?

So, would that mean there's also a "captain of security" and "captain of science?" Are these questions ever addressed in the non-canon novels?

[Bridger]

Do you mean that Spock must have switched tracts and went into command?

Spock wears from the start of STII the white Command Division undershirt, so yes.

Were the three captains all assigned to one ship or was that just circumstance?

I guess it might have been their punishment, including all of them assigned to the new/old Enterprise-A.

So, would that mean there's also a "captain of security" and "captain of science?" Are these questions ever addressed in the non-canon novels?

It might be possible.

[Allan Hood]

Spock wears from the start of STII the white Command Division undershirt, so yes.



I guess it might have been their punishment, including all of them assigned to the new/old Enterprise-A.



It might be possible.

haha their punishment would make sense so Starfleet would have them all in one place haha