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Can Everyone Finally Admit Trump's Seriously Crazy?

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    #1
    Can Everyone Finally Admit Trump's Seriously Crazy?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politi...ona/index.html
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    Trump is a sane and reasonable young man, how could you suggest he's crazy? Just because he's orange doesn't make him crazy.
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    The man is a Narcissistic Sociopath. He is wholly unfit to hold any government office, let alone POTUS. In the last month, he's nearly started a nuclear war with North Korea, threatened military action against Venezuela, all but come right out in support for domestic terrorist white nationalists that killed a person, pretty much said 'that too bad' when asked about the deaths of US Sailors on the USS John S. McCain.

    And that is just in the last few weeks.

    He's already tried to get buddy buddy with a nation that was proven to have launched a cyber attack on the US (IE Russians).

    He's come out in support of the president of the Philipines who is murdering thousands of his citizens under the guise of combating drugs.

    He's admitted that the reason he fired the FBI Director was to try and put an end to the investigation into alleged collusion with the Russians to fix the election.

    He and the GOP are trying again and again (and failing to do so) take away medical insurance of tens of millions of Americans (one of whom is my cousin, a severe type-1 diabetic who has an external insulin pump implant, and would lose his insurance and quite possibly die if that happens).

    The man is corrupt.

    The man is a charlatan.

    The man is mentally unsound.

    In the words of Keith Olberman: "Resist! Remove! Peace."
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    #4
    well acting like crazy and saying crazy stuff doesn't make him crazy . wait what !! ShockedShocked
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    Options for the election were terrible I will say that at first. There are things about him the rub me the wrong way. As far as crazy idk. We really dont have a traditional political president that's for sure. I wouldn't say its all the media fault but part of it. When the media has to nitpick everything from the color to his tie to what he eats I think its getting a little ridiculous. Ever since the election primaries hate really be going rampant and it probably wont stop. I dont think it's just trumps fault. Has he done anything to be impeached that I cant answer. However, I don't see him lasting four years if this continues.

    I know a couple people who been through 6 or 7 different presidencies and they said that this is probably the worse one the media being going crazy about. Usually they said during the primaries they do what they are doing now but once elected they back them no matter what party they are from. But from day one trump went to war with the media I guess that's why they are going after him so hard.

    Honestly I really dont know what to believe when I hear about him anymore.
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     –  Last edited by Allan Hood; Thu 24 Aug, 2017 12:20 AM.
    Options for the election were terrible I will say that at first. There are things about him the rub me the wrong way. As far as crazy idk. We really dont have a traditional political president that's for sure. I wouldn't say its all the media fault but part of it. When the media has to nitpick everything from the color to his tie to what he eats I think its getting a little ridiculous. Ever since the election primaries hate really be going rampant and it probably wont stop. I dont think it's just trumps fault. Has he done anything to be impeached that I cant answer. However, I don't see him lasting four years if this continues.

    I know a couple people who been through 6 or 7 different presidencies and they said that this is probably the worse one the media being going crazy about. Usually they said during the primaries they do what they are doing now but once elected they back them no matter what party they are from. But from day one trump went to war with the media I guess that's why they are going after him so hard.

    Honestly I really dont know what to believe when I hear about him anymore.
    It makes me think you're not really into following the news. Do you just go by what you hear from other people and try to stay out of it?

    I think Trump doesn't understand that EVERYTHING'S recorded. He can't say things and go back on them. His supporters should be holding him accountable. I don't understand why his supporters still support him after all the back peddling he's done.
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    #7
    It makes me think you're not really into following the news. Do you just go by what you hear from other people and try to stay out of it?

    I think Trump doesn't understand that EVERYTHING'S recorded. He can't say things and go back on them. His supporters should be holding him accountable. I don't understand why his supporters still support him after all the back peddling he's done.
    I follow quite a bit. From liberal sources and conservative sources. A lot of them contradict each other so thats why I say I dont know what to believe.
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    As a Canadian, yup I think he's touched. Crazy IDK deff got a few issues though. As stated I agree he just doesnt get that everything he does is recorded, simply saying "Fake news" whenever he is questioned on such a issue just makes him look like a fool.
    Dont even get me going on NAFTA, sure "Rip it up", thats a 11th hour type of bargaining tool. Unless he is serious and then TBH let him. Door does swing both ways, we got water and power, tariff the ♥♥♥♥ out of them and watch.
    I wont even travel to the states anymore ( Wife and I spend alot of time abroad), again perfectly honest here and dont mean ANYTHING against anyone personally, but I tire of USA, pretty much any country I go to thinks as a ppl they are arrogant as hell, loud, rude and pushy. It is funny in a way, they seam to think they are the cool kids in high school, when really nobody can stand them.
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    #9
    Options for the election were terrible I will say that at first. There are things about him the rub me the wrong way. As far as crazy idk. We really dont have a traditional political president that's for sure. I wouldn't say its all the media fault but part of it. When the media has to nitpick everything from the color to his tie to what he eats I think its getting a little ridiculous. Ever since the election primaries hate really be going rampant and it probably wont stop. I dont think it's just trumps fault. Has he done anything to be impeached that I cant answer. However, I don't see him lasting four years if this continues.

    I know a couple people who been through 6 or 7 different presidencies and they said that this is probably the worse one the media being going crazy about. Usually they said during the primaries they do what they are doing now but once elected they back them no matter what party they are from. But from day one trump went to war with the media I guess that's why they are going after him so hard.

    Honestly I really dont know what to believe when I hear about him anymore.
    Blame the Dems...they put Clinton...someone who has already failed to win the White House in the past...you had someone more logical like Sanders up for the option, but my guess is they didn't want to put him up because he wasn't for running business as usual and they wanted someone everyone would know to go up against a reality star like Trump.

    Blame the FBI....it was shady as all hell that they let her go after all that was discovered, without even a slap on the wrist. It was like "Hey, we know you did things that could be considered borderline treasonous....but it's all good!" Didn't help her at all with the images of corruptions and being all about the establishment and business as usual.

    It didn't help that fact that everyone...supporters and celebrities were playing it like Clinton was a no-brainer win already in the bag...I even remember on national TV, weeks before the election I think it was Jennifer Lopez(?) announcing her as the new POTUS before the election.

    I think they would have had a honest chance if they took a risk on Sanders and not someone like Clinton who had a stigma of corruption on her, especially after the whole FBI findings without the smallest penalty, that just reeked of the possibility of corruption at it's finest.

    I mean the fact that someone like Trump actually won just speaks volumes about what people think about Clinton.
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    #10
    I follow quite a bit. From liberal sources and conservative sources. A lot of them contradict each other so thats why I say I dont know what to believe.
    But...we have recordings. Sure, the title might contradict, but the video is exactly the same. We watch it happen live. We can play clips of 45 talking crazy all day. His last speech had nonsense sprinkled all over haha you can actually watch it. It happened.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Blame the Dems...they put Clinton...someone who has already failed to win the White House in the past...you had someone more logical like Sanders up for the option, but my guess is they didn't want to put him up because he wasn't for running business as usual and they wanted someone everyone would know to go up against a reality star like Trump.

    Blame the FBI....it was shady as all hell that they let her go after all that was discovered, without even a slap on the wrist. It was like "Hey, we know you did things that could be considered borderline treasonous....but it's all good!" Didn't help her at all with the images of corruptions and being all about the establishment and business as usual.

    It didn't help that fact that everyone...supporters and celebrities were playing it like Clinton was a no-brainer win already in the bag...I even remember on national TV, weeks before the election I think it was Jennifer Lopez(?) announcing her as the new POTUS before the election.

    I think they would have had a honest chance if they took a risk on Sanders and not someone like Clinton who had a stigma of corruption on her, especially after the whole FBI findings without the smallest penalty, that just reeked of the possibility of corruption at it's finest.

    I mean the fact that someone like Trump actually won just speaks volumes about what people think about Clinton.
    Almost everyone predicted Clinton would win mostly due to her being "sane." Hardly anyone imagined that someone like Trump would ever have a remote chance at the WH because he talks crazy.

    Almost everyone thought Clinton would win due to her experience. I hear people saying they didn't like her personality or whatever...and people like Trump's? I don't get that.

    Besides, every single election, supporters ALWAYS say their dude's going to win. Remember everyone saying how Romney won? His supporters said he won all the way to the last minute.

    haha probably shouldn't bring up "borderline treasonous" and Trump at the same time...
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    #11
    I didn't like either of them, I could have voted Gary Johnson like my Brother did but I knew there wasn't a chance that anyone but Clinton or Trump would have walked away victorious from that election. It was just to big...

    She had things going for her yes...but she also had enough things going against her as well.

    Wonder whats going to happen in a few years...Sanders is going to be almost 80 by the time the next election rolls around...so I don't know if he would even try...who knows if we will even have Trump for the full 4 years lol
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    #13
    Personally, I don't think either option is true. There should be a third that states, both are to blame. So I had to go with the lesser inflammatory option.

    Take a step back and if you were under the microscope of the media, who not only *hated* you but made it their goal to destroy you... well, any sane person would go crazy at that. You would be crazy if you didn't.

    Trump is no saint. He has foot-in-mouth-disease like no other. He is an alpha male and declared war on the media. He doesn't seem to be one to back down easily. But I wouldn't call him irrational or crazy. The guy has gone bankrupt a more than once and has rebuilt his empire. You can hate him, but you have to respect his tenacity to fight back to get back up. I would actually hate Trump if he turned into a marshmallow when he was knocked down.

    Another thing of note is the perspective of where you live. In the US or outside. It is obvious by some of the comments without having to see your location. Please don't take that as personal criticism. It's not. It is an observation. It's like a poll about someone's parents. If you aren't their 'child' your perspective on their rating as a parent is very likely vastly different. It is the same reason I can't comment on other world leaders. As I just don't know and don't have a really solid leg to stand on to comment about their policies that affect someone else.

    Love him, Hate him, Despise him, or Support him. He *IS* the President of the United States. Say what you will about the man, but respect the office and position. To disrespect that, is disrespecting yourself and your country.
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     –  Last edited by Allan Hood; Thu 24 Aug, 2017 10:40 PM.
    Personally, I don't think either option is true. There should be a third that states, both are to blame. So I had to go with the lesser inflammatory option.

    Take a step back and if you were under the microscope of the media, who not only *hated* you but made it their goal to destroy you... well, any sane person would go crazy at that. You would be crazy if you didn't.

    Trump is no saint. He has foot-in-mouth-disease like no other. He is an alpha male and declared war on the media. He doesn't seem to be one to back down easily. But I wouldn't call him irrational or crazy. The guy has gone bankrupt a more than once and has rebuilt his empire. You can hate him, but you have to respect his tenacity to fight back to get back up. I would actually hate Trump if he turned into a marshmallow when he was knocked down.

    Another thing of note is the perspective of where you live. In the US or outside. It is obvious by some of the comments without having to see your location. Please don't take that as personal criticism. It's not. It is an observation. It's like a poll about someone's parents. If you aren't their 'child' your perspective on their rating as a parent is very likely vastly different. It is the same reason I can't comment on other world leaders. As I just don't know and don't have a really solid leg to stand on to comment about their policies that affect someone else.

    Love him, Hate him, Despise him, or Support him. He *IS* the President of the United States. Say what you will about the man, but respect the office and position. To disrespect that, is disrespecting yourself and your country.
    All that alpha male stuff is garbage; there's a whole history.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ti86veZBjU

    The goal of the media is to be the watchdog of the government. "Watchdog journalism informs the public about goings-on in institutions and society, especially in circumstances where a significant portion of the public would demand changes in response."

    This is the primary role of the media. Doesn't matter who's in there. The crazier you act, the more you're going to get reported. The media checks subscriptions and clicks to see what topic their audience wants to hear. We get feedback from phone calls and email. The more the audience wants, the more the audience gets. This encourages advertising, which generates revenue and pays reporters, among others.

    "Like a literal guard dog that barks when it notices an intruder, a "watchdog" role involves alerting others when a problem is detected. Common subjects are the government decision-making process, illegal activity, immorality, consumer protection issues, and environmental degradation."

    "In order to conduct their role as a watchdog, journalists need to have a certain distance from the powers and challenge them, as opposed to "propagandist" journalists, who are loyal to the ruling powers and elites."
    Fox News comes immediately to mind.

    It's true that Trump is inspiring more and more media to turn to an active watchdog format; Trump's insanity is increasing rapidly.

    All quotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchdog_journalism

    Skip to 3:21 for the good stuff.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QToMdilEFEY

    This applies to politicians, too.
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    #15
    All that alpha male stuff is garbage; there's a whole history.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ti86veZBjU

    The goal of the media is to be the watchdog of the government. "Watchdog journalism informs the public about goings-on in institutions and society, especially in circumstances where a significant portion of the public would demand changes in response."

    This is the primary role of the media. Doesn't matter who's in there. The crazier you act, the more you're going to get reported. The media checks subscriptions and clicks to see what topic their audience wants to hear. We get feedback from phone calls and email. The more the audience wants, the more the audience gets. This encourages advertising, which generates revenue and pays reporters, among others.

    "Like a literal guard dog that barks when it notices an intruder, a "watchdog" role involves alerting others when a problem is detected. Common subjects are the government decision-making process, illegal activity, immorality, consumer protection issues, and environmental degradation."

    "In order to conduct their role as a watchdog, journalists need to have a certain distance from the powers and challenge them, as opposed to "propagandist" journalists, who are loyal to the ruling powers and elites."
    Fox News comes immediately to mind.

    It's true that Trump is inspiring more and more media to turn to an active watchdog format; Trump's insanity is increasing rapidly.

    All quotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchdog_journalism

    Skip to 3:21 for the good stuff.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QToMdilEFEY

    This applies to politicians, too.
    I dont think anyone is against that. However when all major news outlets are part of a certain party seems kinda one sided. Just my opinion.
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