[Brask]

Hello rybrarian,

You should have applied as mentioned on the first post of this thread. I will add you to the second Operations/Engineering/Tactical open position, but please follow the rules next time (there are only a few, not constraining )

Anyway, welcome to the USS Ares !

P.S: Sorry if I'm not very active these days, I've got a hell of a flu.

Maybe Rybrarian should roleplay a stowaway?

Welcome to the Ares, Ensign Laxeth. No ship would be complete without a Talaxian.

[rybrarian]

(because I was naughty and I didn't do this in the first place)

Laxeth
41
Talaxian
Male
Recent graduate of Starfleet Academy as an adult; Delta Quadrant refugee. Overly talkative, but technically brilliant. Will probably annoy some of his crewmates, but endear himself to others.

[Allan Hood]

Maybe Rybrarian should roleplay a stowaway?

Welcome to the Ares, Ensign Laxeth. No ship would be complete without a Talaxian.

That's a cool idea, someone who wants to see the uncharted space we're heading to, but doesn't have the qualifications to be in Starfleet. Maybe eventually becoming a crewman or something? That way he doesn't get kicked off when they get home, or does he? Maybe he's just a temporary character?

How would Starfleet officers handle a stowaway? Would they turn him in or help him out? Would he have a situation that would make the crew feel responsible for him? That's a really cool idea.

[Nesta]

Well, considering that they’ll be an awefully long way from home, I’d think that they’d help him, and since it’s a Starfleet vessel, that he would either be put in the brig or be assigned to the crew (a la Neelix).

[Eaglesg]

Guys: we're talking about a Refit Sovereign Class Starship, with Starfleet's latest tech. C'mon

[Nesta]

A hypothesis, Eagle. We’re just having some fun.

[rybrarian]

Couldn’t a stowaway just request asylum?

I have other characters who could fill out the roster, too. I was envisioning a kind of “lower decks” thing since all of the senior positions are taken. I don’t know if the diplomatic character needs to be in star fleet, but my idea was to have an ambassador from Remus who isn’t in Starfleet.

[KaiserKirk]

Couldn’t a stowaway just request asylum?

I have other characters who could fill out the roster, too. I was envisioning a kind of “lower decks” thing since all of the senior positions are taken. I don’t know if the diplomatic character needs to be in star fleet, but my idea was to have an ambassador from Remus who isn’t in Starfleet.

That is a very interesting question. In my opinion, if a stowaway was found during the Ares voyage he/she/it would not be given any kind of role on the ship unless they were down to 50% left of the skeleton crew. What would happen is the stowaway would be thrown in the Brig, then interrogated by the CSO and then moved to another UFP establishment, be it a colony or another starship that could either support a prison or in a starships case was heading into UFP space where they could be given to officials. If the Ares was too far outside UFP space then they would simply keep the prisoner in the Brig for the whole journey or leave the prisoner on an alien world or starship that aligned itself with the UFP such as a protectorate and so on.

To talk about the Sovereign refit. All I could see being changed was updates to its tactical systems, maybe some of the newer models of Quantum Torpedoes or Phasers. My main idea is that Starfleet would not just give it an update of all systems, but actually remove non-essential areas, or just make them take up less space so the Ares can have larger cargo bays, larger medical bays for all possible scenarios, anything that would be needed for self autonomy throughout the voyage.

These may include:

Larger Hydroponics and Frogoponics labs for growing plants and veggies.

More expansive cargo bays,

Industrially sized replicators.

An astrometric lab updated with the latest technologies.

Larger Holodeck and recreational facilities for the crew.

Larger science lab for any anomalies. Also outfitted with the latest tech.

Larger medbay that can deal with any scenario, also outfitted with the latest technology.

Improved scanners.

Improved thrusters.

Improved Warp core.

Negotiations room or something with a similar name, used for ambassadorial reasons.

and so on.

Please add to the list as I am sure that you all have great ideas that could be added to the Ares.

[Eaglesg]

A hypothesis, Eagle. We’re just having some fun.

I know :p Actually that could indeed be an interesting story.

To talk about the Sovereign refit. All I could see being changed was updates to its tactical systems, maybe some of the newer models of Quantum Torpedoes or Phasers. My main idea is that Starfleet would not just give it an update of all systems, but actually remove non-essential areas, or just make them take up less space so the Ares can have larger cargo bays, larger medical bays for all possible scenarios, anything that would be needed for self autonomy throughout the voyage.

These may include:

Larger Hydroponics and Frogoponics labs for growing plants and veggies.

More expansive cargo bays,

Industrially sized replicators.

An astrometric lab updated with the latest technologies.

Larger Holodeck and recreational facilities for the crew.

Larger science lab for any anomalies. Also outfitted with the latest tech.

Larger medbay that can deal with any scenario, also outfitted with the latest technology.

Improved scanners.

Improved thrusters.

Improved Warp core.

Negotiations room or something with a similar name, used for ambassadorial reasons.

and so on.

Please add to the list as I am sure that you all have great ideas that could be added to the Ares.

Also, just to speak about the exterior aspect, new larger and reinforced nacelles pylons, complete new hull (with "aztec pattern" paint, 'cause it's the Federation y'know)

See the references I'm using (aside from advices from John Eaves himself) here:

https://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010...se-ncc-1701-e/

And here:

https://johneaves.wordpress.com/2012...tec-paint-job/


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[Asteropax]

Couldn’t a stowaway just request asylum?

I have other characters who could fill out the roster, too. I was envisioning a kind of “lower decks” thing since all of the senior positions are taken. I don’t know if the diplomatic character needs to be in star fleet, but my idea was to have an ambassador from Remus who isn’t in Starfleet.

Noting a personal opinion here: Lets stick with Alpha/Beta Quadrant races which have close ties to the Federation, as in members and allies. Last I checked Talaxians were still in the Delta Quadrant and the Romulan Star Empire isn't considered an actual ally of the Federation at this time. Talks were started to normalize relations at the end of ST: Nemesis but I doubt Remans, a minority group, have enough say to be accepted into the Federation as crew for their ships.

Yes we are being creative here but I don't think those 2 ideas will work without a lot of creativity and explanation.

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That is a very interesting question. In my opinion, if a stowaway was found during the Ares voyage he/she/it would not be given any kind of role on the ship unless they were down to 50% left of the skeleton crew. What would happen is the stowaway would be thrown in the Brig, then interrogated by the CSO and then moved to another UFP establishment, be it a colony or another starship that could either support a prison or in a starships case was heading into UFP space where they could be given to officials. If the Ares was too far outside UFP space then they would simply keep the prisoner in the Brig for the whole journey or leave the prisoner on an alien world or starship that aligned itself with the UFP such as a protectorate and so on.

To talk about the Sovereign refit. All I could see being changed was updates to its tactical systems, maybe some of the newer models of Quantum Torpedoes or Phasers. My main idea is that Starfleet would not just give it an update of all systems, but actually remove non-essential areas, or just make them take up less space so the Ares can have larger cargo bays, larger medical bays for all possible scenarios, anything that would be needed for self autonomy throughout the voyage.

These may include:

Larger Hydroponics and Frogoponics labs for growing plants and veggies.

More expansive cargo bays,

Industrially sized replicators.

An astrometric lab updated with the latest technologies.

Larger Holodeck and recreational facilities for the crew.

Larger science lab for any anomalies. Also outfitted with the latest tech.

Larger medbay that can deal with any scenario, also outfitted with the latest technology.

Improved scanners.

Improved thrusters.

Improved Warp core.

Negotiations room or something with a similar name, used for ambassadorial reasons.

and so on.

Please add to the list as I am sure that you all have great ideas that could be added to the Ares.

Well, the Sovereign Class had 29 decks around the time of ST: Nemesis so the Ares should as well. I know we only have (correct me if I'm wrong) a schematic from Eagles on 23 decks. I would guess the 6 additional decks would have either additional cargo bays or science equipment for long voyages. Another option for these additional decks would be for an industrial replicator so the ship can resupply itself with spare parts so it can stay outside of the Federation territory for longer.

[KaiserKirk]

I agree with both of Asteropax's comments. I find that it would be hard for a Tallaxian to go from the asteroid in the Delta Quadrant all the way to Earth. Seeing as it is a 75-year voyage! Though it would have been really cool to have a Nelex character... I just don't see how the character could get their. But there are still similar speacies like the Bolians (Similar as in they both are very social)

And I definitely think that some of the more non-essential departments are going to have to be removed to make way for the equipment needed for such an autonomous journey.

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Oh an Eagles paint job is magnificent, It reminds me of what Discovery is doing with all the ships we see (If you look closely on some you can see cool decals on their hulls that make the ship very unique)

[Allan Hood]

Guys: we're talking about a Refit Sovereign Class Starship, with Starfleet's latest tech. C'mon

hahaha well how bad does this stowaway want to get out there? Might have some stolen property from the war to help hide his detection?

[KaiserKirk]

hahaha well how bad does this stowaway want to get out there? Might have some stolen property from the war to help hide his detection?

I think that that would entirely depend on the character. Is it someone who justs wants to explore but can't do the whole rank and uniform that is star fleet, or is it a criminal that has to escape the UFP or another empire grasps.

They could simply be refugees that saw no other way to escape. And all of these scenarios can be dealt with differently. Honestly, I think this would be a good plot early on in Season 1!

[Allan Hood]

Couldn’t a stowaway just request asylum?

I have other characters who could fill out the roster, too. I was envisioning a kind of “lower decks” thing since all of the senior positions are taken. I don’t know if the diplomatic character needs to be in star fleet, but my idea was to have an ambassador from Remus who isn’t in Starfleet.

I like this idea haha according to current laws, stowaways claiming asylum have to have a referral for credible fear determination by an asylum officer, probably our security chief, seems like a hearing to determine whether the asylum is necessary. Then, that finding would have to be cleared with someone at Starfleet Command. Seems like if the hearing goes well for the stowaway, they are allowed to live on the ship and becomes the responsibility of the captain to make sure all needs are met. In effect, they would be treated as passengers until we return to base.
https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/...0-0-23879.html

If we really decide to go this route with a character, we should work them into being a part of the crew somehow, eventually. I'd like to see the hearing and everything surrounding his/her circumstance.

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I think that that would entirely depend on the character. Is it someone who justs wants to explore but can't do the whole rank and uniform that is star fleet, or is it a criminal that has to escape the UFP or another empire grasps.

They could simply be refugees that saw no other way to escape. And all of these scenarios can be dealt with differently. Honestly, I think this would be a good plot early on in Season 1!

Maybe getting away from the Gamma Quadrant? The Dominion? Maybe someone from the Breen, the Gorn, or somewhere nearby?

It got to be a strong reason to rather go off and start off somewhere else in uncharted space and not somewhere else in the Federation or colonized space. Someone must be after him/her, something drastic.

Different characters could all take turns helping this person, unknowingly. The stowaway could slip in and out of the story randomly at interesting points til the end of the season or something, when the hearing happens. All of this would be like a subplot.

[KaiserKirk]

Yes, I really like this idea of a subplot, maybe the stowaway doesn't stay on the ship for the whole season, maybe they are kicked off or who knows maybe they escape if they were taken captive. Then this stowaway can re-appear throughout the season just in different places, like a ship or on a planet. And the character helps the crew or even better becomes their archnemesis. Someone who is always trying to destroy the Ares!