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    #1
    I think I remember seeing a video where someone said it's best to start upgrading from like MKII, because each level upgrade gives chance to upgrade rareness, and going from such low levels gives more chances...is that correct? Does that make sense?

    Second question: so I'm trying to get the weapons I need for my crossfield, I intend to use the sensor linked ones the ship should have, but those are MK-X, should I open some of the many discovery weapon packs I have on a lowbie toon to get it opened at Mk-II or MK-III, and then send back to my other toon to upgrade? Or am I mistaken in thinking something opened like that can be moved between toons?

    Thanks in advance for assistance
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    #2
    Yes, it's best to upgrade from Mk II.

    When you use a kit, the upgrade chance is preserved until the tech points from that kit is exhausted. So you can do something like go from Mk II to Mk VI on a single kit, while keeping the higher upgrade chance from applying excessive amounts of TP in the initial application.

    Lockbox weapons of this sort are generally bound to account on equip, so if your lower level toon doesn't equip it, it should out work that way. Ideally you'd do this with Research boosters and Omega kits during an Upgrade event, which practically guarantees it'll hit Epic from the first kit.
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    #3
    In my opinion ...

    You are correct about upgrading from MkII is best to efficiently also increase the rarity. Using 1 Superior Upgrade Token can get you from MkII to MkVII and each mark rolls to also increase rarity. It is quite possible (but not probable) to have a MkVII Epic item.

    Sooo ... If you really want to upgrade Lockbox weapons, then getting them at a low Mk is certainly advisable.

    Having said that, I strongly urge you wait for another upgrade weekend to make each attempt more efficient in resources while reducing stress, lol. Thus, stockpile now on Dilithium, and upgrade tokens from crafting, admiralty and other sources like missions or key rings.
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    #4
    Thanks for the tips. I have the worst timing for things, lol. Hopefully upgrade weekends will come soon
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    #5
    Me too. It's how I learned the above Tongue Out Patience is a virtue of course, yet if you really want to get things done, then go for it. Waiting just makes it "cheaper" in the long-run.
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    #6
    Sadly, we just had an upgrade event (last week?) so it'll probably be a while.

    I decided to rearrange my BOff weapons literally the day after it ended, so my timing isn't so great either.
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    #7
    In my opinion ...

    You are correct about upgrading from MkII is best to efficiently also increase the rarity. Using 1 Superior Upgrade Token can get you from MkII to MkVII and each mark rolls to also increase rarity. It is quite possible (but not probable) to have a MkVII Epic item.

    Sooo ... If you really want to upgrade Lockbox weapons, then getting them at a low Mk is certainly advisable.

    Having said that, I strongly urge you wait for another upgrade weekend to make each attempt more efficient in resources while reducing stress, lol. Thus, stockpile now on Dilithium, and upgrade tokens from crafting, admiralty and other sources like missions or key rings.
    I reached level 20 on all my rd schools and I crafted a bunch of MKII with the pen mod i wanted. using the above advice, from here is it pretty much ungrading to the max level, then reengineering the mods i want to change?
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    #9
    You are correct, upgrading a MkII item using Superior Upgrades is the most ideal way to upgrade your items. I've gotten Ultra-Rare and Epic qualities at MKIV and MKIX before.

    I do not suggest using anything other than superior upgrades though, as the benefit you get from Uncommon and Rare upgrades are FAR less than that of a Superior Upgrades.
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    so try to get it up to epic asap. or else, it'll cost more resources in the long run?
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     –  Last edited by aceman67; 5 Days Ago.
    so try to get it up to epic asap. or else, it'll cost more resources in the long run?
    Upgrading from MkII is the cheapest* way to get an item to MkXIV (soon to be MkXV) while giving the greatest chance of getting a rarity upgrade, since going from MkII to MkVII only takes one superior upgrade, but gives you 6 chances at a rarity upgrade, with diminishing returns until you get to MkXIV.

    If you want to further increase your chances of a rarity upgrade, use Research Point Accelerators (with Major RP Accelerators being the best value), and if possible, wait till an Upgrade Weekend.

    Basic Tech Upgrade: 700dil per application, and gives 2000 research Points
    Improved Tech Upgrade: 950dil per application, and gives 5000 research points
    Superior Tech Upgrade: 1075dil per application, and gives 12,800 research Points <----Best Value
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    #12
    In other words, save up your Dilithium.

    Frankly, I strongly recommend not upgrading anything until an upgrade weekend.
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    #13
    The Omega kits are actually the best way, you get like a 20% chance (or is it 40%?) of increasing rarity - which as already stated, is preserved until the TP runs out, so you keep that same chance like 6 times.

    The Pheonix kits might also be good for this, not sure of the TP/upgrade chance on that.
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    It's 4x quality chance which is bonkers awesome but HARD to get unless you love grinding. Getting Omega Particle Tech Upgrade Tokens demands time because it's a 20 hour craft after you craft the other particles up. It's a process to be sure.

    Phoenix Tech Upgrade Kits are relatively easy to get compared to Omega Upgrades. Although standard quality chance, they have 51K research points, so each one goes a long way. Add the Research Weekend bonus and they are more awesome.
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    As a "YMMV"...

    One thing I'll do, upgrade weekend or not, is take any weapons I think are "keepers" and get them up to Mark XIV. Even if they don't go up in rarity, a VR Mk XIV has plenty of pop to it.