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    #526
    A good story explanation for him to be held on another ship is 'orders from an Admiral'. Not his mother, but another who realizes the gravity (and sensitivity) of the situation. A small fast ship, like a Defiant-class or Intrepid-class, sent on special orders to get and escort the bad Ensign back to the nearest Starbase.

    Especially after Teriir makes his report to his direct superior, a Commodore or Rear Admiral. Not saying, either way, anything about Barron's mother... but Starfleet is always quick to contain (cover-up) a really bad incident with one of its own.

    Kind of one of those dilemmas... what good or purpose would bringing everything to public or general knowledge of the incident? Will it heal or help the wounds of old? Or will it inflame or even embolden more rogue agents to act against the Federation and Starfleet?

    Sometimes, those in authority positions have to make those hard decisions...


    And as the ARES staff wove into this story plot... it may not be quite done. For now and the near future, absolutely... later on... who knows. Things put in motion may affect other things, etc. hahaha.

    Good stuff. Just some ideas, thoughts, such.
    In addition to the practical fact that the Discovery is overwhelmed with Nausicaan and Bajoran prisoners. All of them should be transferred off before heading out into deeper space, honestly. But I do like the whole storyline you laid out there. Perhaps one of the ships tell Teriir that they are JUST taking custody of him, instead of the other prisoners, with orders to shuttle him back to the nearest Starbase immediately.
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    #527
    In addition to the practical fact that the Discovery is overwhelmed with Nausicaan and Bajoran prisoners. All of them should be transferred off before heading out into deeper space, honestly. But I do like the whole storyline you laid out there. Perhaps one of the ships tell Teriir that they are JUST taking custody of him, instead of the other prisoners, with orders to shuttle him back to the nearest Starbase immediately.
    When did we turn into a crossfield? LOL Just ribbing.

    I'm with you on this. We be packed with baddies.
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    #528
    I'm with you on this. We be packed with baddies.
    Which suggests a rather elegant solution, doesn't it? Choose to be tossed out of the airlock or exile to the planet. If you choose the airlock, out you go. If you choose the planet, you leave via the airlock Smile
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    #529
    Not too elegant. Remember how I mentioned Ensign Barron’s Mom is an Admiral? I know I mentioned somewhere that her flagship is the Athena so why don’t we let her ship join us briefly.

    This’ll solve a lot of problems all at once. I’m on my phone atm so I’ll go into detail on how we can combine everyone’s ideas when I get to my computer.
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    #530
    Not too elegant. Remember how I mentioned Ensign Barron’s Mom is an Admiral? I know I mentioned somewhere that her flagship is the Athena so why don’t we let her ship join us briefly.

    This’ll solve a lot of problems all at once. I’m on my phone atm so I’ll go into detail on how we can combine everyone’s ideas when I get to my computer.
    I'm down with that!
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    #531
     –  Last edited by Asteropax; 1 Week Ago.
    Jotting down the ideas first;

    - Silynn suggested having an Admiral contact us about our capturing the Traitor and to have another ship join us for security reasons.

    - LogicalLeopard mentioned about us already being filled up with prisoners from other actions, including the Nausicaans and Bajorans we already posses, and that we need to get them off our ship soon.

    During the talks Captain Teriir had with Ensign Barron, it was revealed that the Traitor's mother, an Admiral in Starfleet, was the chief conspirator in the plot. He also mentioned others so there are more out there who are involved in the plot. The starship Athena, our sister-ship, is the Admiral's flagship, making it their headquarters / mobile base of operations.

    To explain their arrival in the Dorvan System, I feel a story reason is that our Traitor contacted her to inform the conspirators that he may be compromised (around the time when the Nausicaans failed to capture Christopher and Jei's shuttle group) and requested they come to support him in a backup plan. Their new plan was to destroy the Ares by activating the ship's self-destruct option. The Athena would later arrive to inspect the wreckage, find the remains of the Cardassian munitions earlier smuggled into our cargo hold, and blame the events on a terrorist attack. They would also pickup Ensign Barron's escape vehicle and he would make statements to make everything appear to be a boarding action by the Cardassians. The attack on the Colony would also make it appear we were busy fighting a 2 front battle and were overwhelmed.

    Their entire plan falls apart the instant one of the other ships with us (how about the Memphis as it didn't have much of a role in directly helping us?) began broadcasting the events on our ship. Multiple Federation vessels receive the transmission, including Admiral Ross at DS9 and the Athena. While Admiral Ross informs everyone who receives the transmissions not to transmit further and to remain silent until they can better determine the situation, the majority of the crew of the Athena mutiny against Admiral Barron and her co-conspirators. Since it is a conspiracy, the vast majority of the ship's crew are loyal to the Federation, such as the Admiral's Attaché (she was the First Officer of a ship that was destroyed in a prior plot of theirs), and decided to take action. Some of the conspirators don't know how deep the plot goes and end up surrendering themselves / aiding in the mutiny. With the conspirators in custody, they were able to contact Starfleet Command to inquire about what they should do with their prisoners.

    This is where everything comes together.

    Admiral Ross links communications between the Athena and Ares to let us know they want the Athena to continue on to the Dorvan System. We have 5 ships here, including 2 Prometheus Class starships; the Cerberus and Chardybis. One of the Prometheus, say the Cerberus will take on the Federation Prisoners, specifically, the Bajoran Extremists and the Conspirators, and head to a more secure location, such as DS9, Starbase 375, or Starbase 310. With the visiting Ambassadorial Delegation still needing protection on the way to Cardassia, the Athena will join the Chardybis in escorting the Memphis. That'll leave the Ares and Lakota in system to handle the Nausicaan prisoners. When we go our seperate ways after the arrival of the Angelic, we will let the Lakota take on the remaining prisoners while the Ares leaves to pick up some additional scientific supplies in preparation for its deep space mission.

    Food for thought for later;
    Kind of one of those dilemmas... what good or purpose would bringing everything to public or general knowledge of the incident? Will it heal or help the wounds of old? Or will it inflame or even embolden more rogue agents to act against the Federation and Starfleet?

    Sometimes, those in authority positions have to make those hard decisions...

    And as the ARES staff wove into this story plot... it may not be quite done. For now and the near future, absolutely... later on... who knows. Things put in motion may affect other things, etc. hahaha.

    Good stuff. Just some ideas, thoughts, such.
    Very good questions and there are some others we'll have to ask.

    - Will the Cardassian / Human Hybrid Officer captured and tortured by the conspirators decide to leave Starfleet, unable to stomach what happened to him, or stay and prove them wrong while living the life he wanted?

    - Amita Patel's husband needs to be informed of what happened to her, but will he accept and understand what happened or will he blame us for her death?

    - Should General Order 4, Starfleet's ruling on permitting the death penalty for mutineers and traitors, come to the table when we talk to Starfleet Command about what to do with the Conspirators and the Barrons? (Although we are going to send them off to prison, I would like to know if we should bring this topic up in the conversation.)

    I foresee a poll coming up soon to decide what to do with them.
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    Sorry for not being here for a bit, will try and get a post done soon.
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    #533
    When did we turn into a crossfield? LOL Just ribbing.

    I'm with you on this. We be packed with baddies.
    LOL! I don't know how I made that mistake!!
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    #534
    - Amita Patel's husband needs to be informed of what happened to her, but will he accept and understand what happened or will he blame us for her death?
    A sad duty that Christopher can fulfil. However you want her husband's reaction to be, I'll write that one.
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    #535
    A sad duty that Christopher can fulfil. However you want her husband's reaction to be, I'll write that one.
    I was putting some thought into this earlier today and I feel it is best to allow you and Silynn to determine his reaction.

    The two of you wrote the story which featured Amita Patel; it is only fair you decide how this goes.
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    #536
    - Should General Order 4, Starfleet's ruling on permitting the death penalty for mutineers and traitors, come to the table when we talk to Starfleet Command about what to do with the Conspirators and the Barrons? (Although we are going to send them off to prison, I would like to know if we should bring this topic up in the conversation.)

    I foresee a poll coming up soon to decide what to do with them.
    I'm thinking that if the subject comes up, the answer would be a resounding no. One of the best things about this roleplay is that it is set in a transitional period after a devastating war. Too many people have died, too many people have lost, and there are some people, like the Barrons, that simply couldn't deal with that mentally. My character would say to have the death stop here, and send them to prison and rehabilitation. I think a lot of people might. It would be kind of a cleansing before moving out into deep space.
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    It would be kind of a cleansing before moving out into deep space.
    Tossing them out an airlock into deep space before moving out would be acceptable too. Smile

    But you're right, we're meant to have higher standards as Starfleet officers. Although that doesn't take into account any possible shift in federation policy in a post-war environment. Sedition and treason may be an automatic death sentence if the federation cannot afford the negative repercussions of such acts.
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    Tossing them out an airlock into deep space before moving out would be acceptable too. Smile

    But you're right, we're meant to have higher standards as Starfleet officers. Although that doesn't take into account any possible shift in federation policy in a post-war environment. Sedition and treason may be an automatic death sentence if the federation cannot afford the negative repercussions of such acts.
    *LOL*

    I'm thinking you might have the reverse effect. Sedition and Treason would have an automatic death sentence during war time, but as far as the negative repercussions afterward, I dont think that Starfleet would put to death officers who had such feelings, because many officers have those feelings and they would just become martyrs. Seems like keeping it as quiet as possible would be the best solution, shipping them to some sort of isolated rehab colony. <br>
    If that's the way it goes though, it would be interesting to see what Starfleet thought of the captain's decision to broadcast Barron's meltdown to the other ships. Either way, the fallout from that will be very interesting. The Ares could find herself in the middle of a Starfleet internal cold war of sorts.
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    *LOL*

    I'm thinking you might have the reverse effect. Sedition and Treason would have an automatic death sentence during war time, but as far as the negative repercussions afterward, I dont think that Starfleet would put to death officers who had such feelings, because many officers have those feelings and they would just become martyrs. Seems like keeping it as quiet as possible would be the best solution, shipping them to some sort of isolated rehab colony. <br>
    If that's the way it goes though, it would be interesting to see what Starfleet thought of the captain's decision to broadcast Barron's meltdown to the other ships. Either way, the fallout from that will be very interesting. The Ares could find herself in the middle of a Starfleet internal cold war of sorts.
    Federation could take the death penalty as a means to avert another war so soon, seeing the actions of the Barrons as likely to escalate into another conflict that Starfleet can hardly afford. But, there's no way we'd actually space Ensign Barron when there's so many other ways to have fun with him. We could request that "Mmm Bop" be played on a loop in his cell for 18 hours a day as part of his therapy. Program his replicator to only deliver Plomeek soup. The possibilities are endless.
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    I'm thinking you might have the reverse effect. Sedition and Treason would have an automatic death sentence during war time, but as far as the negative repercussions afterward, I dont think that Starfleet would put to death officers who had such feelings, because many officers have those feelings and they would just become martyrs. Seems like keeping it as quiet as possible would be the best solution, shipping them to some sort of isolated rehab colony. <br>
    If that's the way it goes though, it would be interesting to see what Starfleet thought of the captain's decision to broadcast Barron's meltdown to the other ships. Either way, the fallout from that will be very interesting. The Ares could find herself in the middle of a Starfleet internal cold war of sorts.
    Federation could take the death penalty as a means to avert another war so soon, seeing the actions of the Barrons as likely to escalate into another conflict that Starfleet can hardly afford. But, there's no way we'd actually space Ensign Barron when there's so many other ways to have fun with him. We could request that "Mmm Bop" be played on a loop in his cell for 18 hours a day as part of his therapy. Program his replicator to only deliver Plomeek soup. The possibilities are endless.
    I didn't think too much about the fallout aboard other ships and we REALLY don't want an internal cold war within Starfleet or a witch hunt, like what happened in the TNG Episode; Drumhead. Let's fix that my having the transmissions be directed to Starfleet Command, so only the top people know what's going on and can filter things down to where it's needed, and the starship Athena, which we'll have appear in long range sensors as the hostage situation is concluding going on.

    Barron dying for his crimes would indeed likely make him a martyr for other bad people but could also terrorize good people. Since the Federation condemns the death penalty, the thought of actually using it would not reassure them of us being the "highly moral" society which uses violence as a last resort. We are better than that.

    I hear Starfleet's combat rations are delicious; perhaps he can enjoy some of those during his time in captivity aboard our ship?
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