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    " I felt a strange disturbance in the force....as if millions of STO veteran player bullshit detectors suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.."


    Also......

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    #32
    The next truly despicable thing they could do would be cut the amount of marks awarded by each TFO to 'encourage' people to buy out the rep. Instead of an acceptable month long grind for your rep, you now have a three month long slog or worse. Whales won't care, new players won't know any different and us old players are so starved for content that if they release a new Rep, we'll play it just for something new to do. The bravest will walk away from the wretchedness that the game will be at that point.

    My $0.02
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    #33
    This is Perfect World Entertainment's doing, not Cryptic or its EP. This is the Parent Company saying "Make us more money, don't care how".

    I doubt the Devs like this, but they they still want to be employed.
    I'm sure the front line Devs don't like it at all. But the thing is the EP can push back and make a case for why some things aren't a good idea. We haven't had an EP who stood up for the player base since Stephen Ricossa. And one look at Andre's linkedin page says it all. The guy is good at making money off of player bases.

    Once he took over new content plummeted. Then we got repeating events that could be either completed early through money or bought out after the fact if you didn't complete it on time. Now you're getting pay for reputation stuff. Need I say more? The guy doesn't care about the game, the franchise, or the player base. All he cares about is how much you're going to spend on STO.

    If you give us things of value we will support your game. Keep feeding us crap and we will move on.
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    If it's true what I was told, this is nothing compared to what is going to come: Salt, Rage, Anger it will be fun to watch
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    #35
    If it's true what I was told, this is nothing compared to what is going to come: Salt, Rage, Anger it will be fun to watch
    You can’t just leave us hanging with a trolling statement like that dude!

    Feed us more salty rage stories! I thrive on the tears of saltiness this game brings these days!
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    You can’t just leave us hanging with a trolling statement like that dude!

    Feed us more salty rage stories! I thrive on the tears of saltiness this game brings these days!
    Yes I can Wink - It happened before it's going to happen again.
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    #37
    oh lookie, another step down the dark dark path of money grubbing and pay to win ness
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    #38
    I dont see the problem with this. Most of us have rep done so more a convenience for those that want to use it or new players that dont want to wait. Not p2w feature at all. Like buying a stash tab in Path of Exile. Same price as a t6 ship. If you all are dropping 300 dollars on legendary bundle whats the difference? See, they tested the water with that legendary pack they saw what the community was willing the spend for stuff and here we are. Now we'll start seeing more ways for those that like spend their money.
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    Yes I can Wink - It happened before it's going to happen again.
    I will await the pain and suffering and your unofficial confirmation of what it is.
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    If it's true what I was told, this is nothing compared to what is going to come: Salt, Rage, Anger it will be fun to watch
    *prepares popcorn*

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    #42
    Pay to Win mechanics, and with Reps not being account-wide this is a cash grab. The monetization and predatory gambling in this game make me sick.
    Another cash grab... seems the march to MMO termination is under way.
    Sooooooooo what is the point of playing the game if you can buy your way to completion LOL... forget playing for fun, just buy it all and forget playing. Sometimes playing TFOs can be fun while moving up in reputation and enjoying hard earned rewards...
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    #43
    Sooooooooo what is the point of playing the game if you can buy your way to completion LOL... forget playing for fun, just buy it all and forget playing. Sometimes playing TFOs can be fun while moving up in reputation and enjoying hard earned rewards...
    A good chunk of a player's potential in this game is skill, not gear. Buyout options just mean players get the gear without practicing the skills, which is just going to be pay-for-mediocrity, not pay-to-win. It also leaves you that much less to do when you reach endgame.
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    #44
    No where close to p2w. I have a high expectation most dont know what p2w really is lol. Go play a china/Korean mmorpg then you'll know what p2w is.
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    #45
    No where close to p2w. I have a high expectation most dont know what p2w really is lol. Go play a china/Korean mmorpg then you'll know what p2w is.
    It's Pay-to-Skip, which in this case, is not too far away for Pay-to-Win because it unlocks the traits without putting in the required grind, or time, you are paying to skip the grind to get to T5 rep.

    That said, STO does have P2W elements to it, like the 10th Anniversary Legendary Starship Standard Bundle, such as the trait that makes a super powered Gravity Well, something which you can not get without spending money, unless you managed to grind a large amount of Dilithium, which you could convert to Zen.

    These things, and power creep, are the things which have killed PvP in STO, but if we pretend that PvP is a big part of STO, then anything that is Pay-to-Skip does become Pay-to-Win because it means that someone who has been playing for a while, as a free player can be overtaken by someone who has been playing for a week who put money into the game. This is also true for DPS rankings, if someone puts money into the game, they are going to have a better chance of out DPSing a free player, this is, by definition, Pay-to-Win because you are putting in money to get an advatage, which helps you to win.