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    Episode Discussion

    "Terra Firma, Part 1"

    US Airdate: 10/12/2020 (CBS All Access)
    International: 11/12/2020 (Netflix)


    This thread is for the pre and post discussion of the Season 3 episode "Terra Firma, Part 1" - this will be a spoiler filled discussion so if you've found your way past the warnings in the activity stream and the spoiler tag on the thread, this is your last chance to turn back, or at least it will be at the end of this first post. You have been warned!

    The Discovery crew turns their attention to finding a cure for Georgiou's deteriorating health, which takes them to a mysterious planet. Stamets and Adira continue their research into the data acquired on the Burn and make a major breakthrough.

    Some promo shots of the upcoming episode can be found here. This episode marks the first 2 part episode of the season.

    "Terra Firma, Part 1" is episode 9 of 13.

    Written by: Alan McElroy from a story by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt
    Directed by: Omar Madha
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    #2
    Judging from the title, I had a feeling this episode would be a Mirror Universe episode. And I was right. And I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this episode. So far, the best this season.

    Also, I had this theory last week that Georgiou's condition was related to her being in the wrong universe for too long. And I was right.
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    #3
    i really want to see the Kelvin Universe Starfleet from 2379 looks like. even tho they are still using Early TNG Uniforms, the ships must be insane considering the design difference from Kelvin Connie and Prime Connie (Even from the DSC Version of the Connie)
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    #4
    Okay, I liked it but how it fits in the current story we will have to obviously wait and see next week I guess.
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    #5
    I'm kind of giddy the Kelvin Timeline got acknowledged, I'm now hoping maybe we'll get new media set in it, hopefully in comic form, seems the comics do it better justice than the films.

    I question Saru's decision about not wanting to tell the Admiral about the Kelpien ship or Books Information, kind of makes me worried it will lead to something disastrous for starfleets remaining ships. Also seems like the Chain has done this before, wonder what other factions they warred with.
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    #6
    I'm kind of giddy the Kelvin Timeline got acknowledged, I'm now hoping maybe we'll get new media set in it, hopefully in comic form, seems the comics do it better justice than the films.

    I question Saru's decision about not wanting to tell the Admiral about the Kelpien ship or Books Information, kind of makes me worried it will lead to something disastrous for starfleets remaining ships. Also seems like the Chain has done this before, wonder what other factions they warred with.
    But now that the Kelvin timeline has been teased, everyone is going to start trolling forums saying Disco is part of the JJ-verse and not "real Trek". Facepalm

    Otherwise this week's episode was decent. A bit quirky like we were going to get a Q moment, and Georgiou's story arc makes me even feel like this might be her version of the TNG episode "Tapestry" where Q let Picard change a critical moment in his past. The new tease about the Burn this week was a bit underwhelming, but I suspect that we'll either see a final showdown with the Emerald Chain after Part II of this story next week and the Burn will be the cliffhanger leading to Season 4, or possibly vice versa. Either way, only a few more weeks of new Trek (unless CBS pulls a surprise announcement).
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    #7
     –  Last edited by Aleaic; Thu 10 Dec, 2020 6:22 PM.
    Jeepers, it's fun being a Terran.

    And, ahhhh, the lubable Philippa.

    (Edit: I wonder what Emperor Grudge is like. ALL HAIL EMPEROR GRUDGE!!! had to do dat Tongue Out )
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    But now that the Kelvin timeline has been teased, everyone is going to start trolling forums saying Disco is part of the JJ-verse and not "real Trek". Facepalm
    Most likely, but I'm happy CBS is keeping it alive. While I am no fan of what Abrams did when he ran things, the Kelvin Timeline has potential for good stories if given the right storytellers.

    I'm starting to wonder about Georgiou, sure she can be murderous and cruel but I'm starting to think she wasn't always like that. I'm starting to think she didn't kill San but perhaps San died protecting her.
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    Now, would a nascel-less Vengance, be bad ass, or just weird?
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    #10
    I think this was so far the best episode we have in this season. It reminded me of several Trek moments. Like starting with the assembly of the medical holo-image of Philippa Georgiou is like in the Voyager episode the Doc went on a moral dilemma when saving ensign Harry Kim from another ensign.
    Speaking of Harry Kim reminds me of another episode. I bet this Carl is not a Q. He is not putting that arrogance of a typical Q on display. Rather I think he's a member of Cosimo's species. Remember the episode "Non Sequitur" where Harry is on Earth and somehow mixed up the timestream and wasn't feeling ok being on Earth while his friends are left in the Delta Quadrant and the coffee man, Cosimo, helps him out to fix it.

    Nice to see Terran Empire people enjoy to party too and not constantly backstab each other or spend time in the Agonizing Booth, though the group around Hugh and Paul probably would enjoy that. I hope we get to see Lorca again, since we see his herald Cmdr. Ellen Landry resurfaces as well in this episode and Georgiou can't stop talking about him.
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    I really hope they find Lorca (still a fan of him, hah) but I don't like the refitted Version of the Discovery. It doesn't look like a starship to me anymore
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    I really hope they find Lorca (still a fan of him, hah) but I don't like the refitted Version of the Discovery. It doesn't look like a starship to me anymore
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    #13
    I think this was so far the best episode we have in this season. It reminded me of several Trek moments. Like starting with the assembly of the medical holo-image of Philippa Georgiou is like in the Voyager episode the Doc went on a moral dilemma when saving ensign Harry Kim from another ensign.
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    Nice to see Terran Empire people enjoy to party too and not constantly backstab each other or spend time in the Agonizing Booth, though the group around Hugh and Paul probably would enjoy that. I hope we get to see Lorca again, since we see his herald Cmdr. Ellen Landry resurfaces as well in this episode and Georgiou can't stop talking about him.
    Yeah, not sure Carl is a Q either. The continuum would have been unknown to a 23rd century Starfleet based on what we have seen in previous shows. Thus, making Carl a Q would be a pure fanservice play to the audience but Georgiou and Burnham in theory wouldn't have a reason to know what being a Q meant (aside from the fact that Burnham knows and can do everything that nobody else knows or can do). Merely pointing out the similarities in storylines.

    That said, making the Q or similarly omnipotent species being behind the Burn would be the easy button to explaining how dilithium could suddenly become broken on a grand scale. Otherwise, we'll need some sort of pseudoscience explanation as to how fundamental laws of nature suddenly no longer apply.
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    #14
    I really hope they find Lorca (still a fan of him, hah) but I don't like the refitted Version of the Discovery. It doesn't look like a starship to me anymore
    I'm really hoping they use this as a vehicle to bring prime Lorca into the show, although I'm already braced for disappointment
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    A bit quirky like we were going to get a Q moment
    That was the EXACT thing that popped into my mind as well... along with JJ Thumbs up

    I will sleep until the next episode airs. Cant wait !