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[Spoiler] - Discovery S3-E13 - "That Hope Is You Part II"

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    #31
    I think Saru is a fine officer but not necessarily a good captain. Every time he made a command decision you could almost hear it in his voice that he was questioning himself. Before he was finished giving the order he was second guessing it. Captain's can't do that. Especially in a crisis. During a diplomatic situation he seemed to thrive though so I'd love to see him take an ambassadorial role next season. I think that would be perfect for him.

    I don't know how I feel about the new uniforms yet. Logically it makes sense for them to get them. It's the same with all the upgrades and the new badges and other gizmos they've had to get and learn to use. They're in a new time, this is how Star Fleet does things, get on board or hit the bricks. The uniforms were the last piece of the puzzle. As for how they look, I'll have to see them in season 4 and in more scenes and in use before I really have an opinion on how they look.

    Not a fan of the massive interior shots of the turbolift shafts and all of that. Reminds me of the newer movies and I could never really wrap my head around how the interiors could be so spacious when I was so used to seeing cramped jefferies tubes on every other series and movie throughout trek history. Just doesn't work for me.

    I do hope Stamets gets over the bug up his butt with Burnham early in season 4 though and he doesn't make a big deal of it. It seemed like when he saw her he acknowledged what she did to get his family back but that he hadn't quite forgiven her for ejecting him out of the ship the way she did and then when she took the captain's chair at the end he seemed to be in a better mood, almost as if he was proud of her so maybe it won't even be a thing. Who knows.
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    #32
    It kind of did, didn't it? Were it not for the fact that we know they're filming Season 4 right now in Canada, I would think that the series is over, but CBS renewed them to a fourth and fifth season in early 2020.

    That being said, the explanation of the Burn was fine; TNG and VOY had some pretty wildly resolved episodes too, so I absolutely agree this was a very Trek-like resolution. I loved the character interactions most of all and the little tidbits of characterization, for example, Owo's brief explanation of her swimming talents. Also, her "I love you all" brought me to tears (the sheer acting talent on this show is incredible).

    I'm also glad we got to see the 32nd Century Starfleet engage in combat for purely selfish reasons, because now Thomas, Jette, Jeremy, and company now have awesome source material upon which to base the upcoming 32nd Century ships that are surely coming down the pipe. Smile

    My complaints about the episode are:

    - Why does Discovery have such a spacious interior?! Holy crap, it looked like the interior of a Dyson Sphere in there.
    - What the hell was Burnham pushed into? Why is something so dangerous without some kind of barrier to prevent someone from falling in?
    - The long shot at the warp core looked like it was housed inside a Starbase and fell through that shunt on the Death Star before it found it's way outside.

    I could go on, but those are the top three things that really bugged the crap out of me.




    I sense this is opening a big door for S4, possibly. I suspect there's something else going on here that's contributing to this atypical Trill symbiotic relationship? He mentioned the other hosts having the same trouble, so I feel like the writers are going to explore this with Adira, Paul, and Hugh moving forward. Also, I love that new erstwhile family unit that formed and I'm eager to see that grow in the future.



    -- Kyuu
    In ENT, NX-01 once met a 31st century Earth vessel, which was then described as larger inside than outside, perhaps using similar technology when USS Discovery received its transformation in the 32nd century.
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    #33
    I just realised I've forgotten to include the polls in several of the recent threads - I'll put a new thread up next week for an overall vote for the season and get some statistics worked out from that.
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    #34
    Stamets gets over the bug up his butt with Burnham I think he will not which is why Booker is going to be the main guy.
    Stamets is being a typical little B**** and only cares for himself and his feelings which I could see that maybe in the future he leaves and because that bad person that used to be Starfleet they could create a whole competitive storyline just on him going against the federation and spore drive tech.
    yes the whole turbo lift seen was so Doc Whos Tardis lol the inside of the ship also kind of reminded me of a Borg Cube it was so large hehe but the fight between Burnham bugged me the most I already mentioned this but for a so called bad person she didnt use anything to her advantage like ponding on Burnham's leg until she submitted then shooting her dead she hits her a couple of times then stops what was that if it was me I would have kept ponding on the leg until she was totally down then shot her plus all of the grunting I mean really why grunt when picking up a weapon or firing a weapon that was over the top hehe
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    #35
    Here's an official post on the science of the burn

    https://intl.startrek.com/news/the-s...iscoverys-burn
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    #36
    Quite interesting and nice to see just how closely based on real science the actual cause and elements of the plot were.
    There’s obviously some made up stuff because subspace isn’t real but the rest of it is nicely put together.
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    #37
    In ENT, NX-01 once met a 31st century Earth vessel, which was then described as larger inside than outside, perhaps using similar technology when USS Discovery received its transformation in the 32nd century.
    I actually just saw a clip on youtube of the scene where the crew of Enterprise were examining the time ship so I did a little research because I couldn't quite remember exactly when that ship was from. According to the Memory Alpha entry for the Enterprise episode Future Tense (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki...ense_(episode)), the time ship is from 900 years into their future so that would be the 31st century (give or take) so the technology would certainly exist for their ship interiors to be larger on the inside.

    After seeing that clip and being reminded of that and seeing precedence, the massive space in the turbolift shafts doesn't bother me so much anymore. haha.
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    #38
    So this is not a mid season finale but a full season finale.
    I hope they start the next one soon.
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    #39
    the news season probably wont start until at least December 2021
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    #40
    The next season has (supposedly) already started filming. They'd said a while ago that while the pandemic caused delays, the one thing they were able to get well ahead with was the scripts.
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    #41
    Damn corona virus.
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    #42
    the news season probably wont start until at least December 2021 grr dont know how to delete this second post hehe