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Article: Questions Raised about Memory Alpha

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     –  Last edited by Silek; Sat 09 Jan, 2021 3:24 PM.
    When it shows up as blatantly as this, you know that the same attitude has pervaded any decision that wasn't as noticeable by these same people.
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    I'm genuinely surprised to read about that. I hope that they take this incident to heart and do some serious soul searching
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    I saw this tweet circulating on twitter and I have to say I’m appalled at the behaviour at the Memory Alpha admins, its just unacceptable in the modern world. I feel like removing the gender section from all wiki entries was the wrong way to handle this. I’m sorry but the character of Adira Tal is non-binary and played by a trans actor, that information should be prominently shown because its a fact.
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    They should have changed it to avoid all the drama, but that's what it is unnecessary drama.
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    #6
    I saw this tweet circulating on twitter and I have to say I’m appalled at the behaviour at the Memory Alpha admins, its just unacceptable in the modern world. I feel like removing the gender section from all wiki entries was the wrong way to handle this. I’m sorry but the character of Adira Tal is non-binary and played by a trans actor, that information should be prominently shown because its a fact.
    Small correction, Blu del Barrio is non-binary themselves. Ian Alexander (who played Gray) is transgender. It sounds like the admins of MA just made this entire mess themselves instead of just leaving things as they were and including the options.
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    We live in a modern world with some old fashioned people I guess.
    Strange that they have a problem with that at the memory alpha staff.
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    #8
    MA is a funny old place., Last year they had a mahoosive round of arguments about how to record Picard after the first season on his show; they really do not seem to always act terribly sensibly over there.

    I think the best course of action would have been to just go with what the cast member wanted if it's about them personally, or with whatever the writing team decided upon as that's the canon answer. No use muddying the water with silly personal decisions based on the admin's view. It's not their call to make what the writers wanted the character to be identified as.
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     –  Last edited by Kyuusaku; Sat 09 Jan, 2021 7:11 PM.
    Unfortunately, the MA admins have long operated in their own little self-important bubble. This is true of most of the well-traveled wikis over at Fandom (fka Wikia). They pride themselves on the fact that they are an important resource, used by so many Trek writers and authors throughout the years, and that's led to a sense of over-inflated worth and ego. Often times, problems brought to their attention are bothersome nits; minimized and dismissed. I'm actually glad that after so many years of this kind of behavior, Anthony Rapp and Wilson Cruz are calling them out for it. I hope this results in some major change, but I feel that once this dies down, they'll return to their default perspective.

    It's okay to dislike Discovery, but speaking as a technical writer, you can't let your personal opinion of your subject matter cloud your judgment when constructing and maintaining a long-term reference. You end up with a poor product as a result.

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    Disappointing but not surprising.
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    Out of curiosity I looked around the Memory Alpha site to see what I could find about the admin team. I expected to find it was maybe just a handful of people that made this poor choice, but according to the list on their site there are around 50 admins active as of their last list update. A professional chronicler should check their beliefs and record their subject matter free of any biases they may personally hold, so for so many to fail to recognize this issue up front AND fail so miserably at resolving it once the team was called out for it is ridiculous. The fact that the subject here was Star Trek, which strives to portray a future humanity that has risen above and beyond this petty behavior makes this failure all the more tragic.
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    I think you should see memory alpha as a Star Trek version of Wikipedia. On Wikipedia, not all of the information is always correct cause some people don’t check their sources. It even happens in the local press so ...
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