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[Spoiler] - Star Trek Picard - Season 3 Sneak Peak trailer

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    #1

    ESD gone got itself upgraded and a few new ships being shown off!
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    but the ship they mention by name in the trailer doesn't look anything like its namesake! apart from that it got me hyped for feb 16th
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    but the ship they mention by name in the trailer doesn't look anything like its namesake! apart from that it got me hyped for feb 16th
    Well, based on various posts across the Internet, it's a Constitution refit.
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    Well, based on various posts across the Internet, it's a Constitution refit.
    Uh... no.

    It's a constitution refit as much as the F/A-18 Super Hornet is a refit of the original F-18, in that it looks superficially similar, but has next to no shared components. At least that's the impression I got.
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    This ship appears to be a modified ShangriLa Class starship: https://youtu.be/5zmpikqyAS4

    It was apparently a tactical cruiser, preceding the Excelsior Class (from a video made 6 years ago): https://youtu.be/jVCw_QeSjc0

    This explains the TMP styling, but not how it would be the successor to the Titan that we have seen in Lower Decks. I'm not sure that we have a full grasp of what is being represented to us with this ship yet. I think that it would be a mistake for Picard: S3 to go make it a current era ship, with this design aesthetic. Maybe there are more time travel/ alternate universe shenanigans going on here. If not, I can't say that I'm a fan of this design, for the era that Picard: S3 is presumably set in. However, putting that aside, I am very excited for Picard: S3!
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    According to various sources all citing Terry Matalas this is alternately referred to as a "Neo-Consitution" or "Constitution III" model of ship. He's also directly tweeted that they will honor the original Luna-class Titan we've seen previously in Season 3, so sounds like they will probably address the transition once the season actually drops. Before the trailer dropped there were multiple hints about honoring the various starships Enterprise, so I'm curious if this is their way of trying to honor the original 1701 and 1701-A by giving the design yet another facelift, in this case one to bring it up to early 25th century ship design language as opposed to the JJverse and Disco/SNW versions which are basically just taking the 1960s model and giving it some 21st century CGI love.
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    According to various sources all citing Terry Matalas this is alternately referred to as a "Neo-Consitution" or "Constitution III" model of ship. He's also directly tweeted that they will honor the original Luna-class Titan we've seen previously in Season 3, so sounds like they will probably address the transition once the season actually drops. Before the trailer dropped there were multiple hints about honoring the various starships Enterprise, so I'm curious if this is their way of trying to honor the original 1701 and 1701-A by giving the design yet another facelift, in this case one to bring it up to early 25th century ship design language as opposed to the JJverse and Disco/SNW versions which are basically just taking the 1960s model and giving it some 21st century CGI love.
    I get it, and I don't hate the design. I disagree with you, on this being a 25th century ship design. It is very 'Star Trek', but my problem is that it's very 'TMP Star Trek', not 'current era for Picard: S3 Star Trek'. This design seems like several steps backwards from the Sovereign, the Voyager, the Titan (as seen in Lower Decks), the Stargazer (as seen in Picard: S2...I know, the nacelles are very similar), and even the Galaxy Class(from TNG) designs. It's a TMP era design. This design, and the Excelsior 2 design, are pandering to the fanbase, trying to buy goodwill with ship designs and class names that harken back to ships that we love. By bringing in several of the STO original designs, I felt optimistic about the direction that Star Trek was heading with the ship design language. I watch modern Star Trek to see how things have progressed from the Star Trek that I've already watched...not to be reminded of what has already come before (exception made for prequels, like Strange New Worlds). My resistance to this design is made worse by my existing knowledge of the designer's intended backstory and history for the Shangri-La Class. Seeing it ever so slightly modified, and given a completely derivative Class designation, Neo-Constitution or Constitution III, just puts me off even more. Excelsior 2, Neo-Constitution, Constitution III...what happened? Did they run out of new names for ship classification?

    Like I said in my previous post, I'm looking forward to Picard: S3, but I'm not a fan of the new Titan-A ship design, based solely on the era that it's being depicted in. As a TMP era ship, it's a cool ship. As a Picard era ship, it looks like an antique, IMHO.

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    I get it, and I don't hate the design. I disagree with you, on this being a 25th century ship design. ... It's a TMP era design.
    I don't disagree with you. The new Titan is definitely just another rehash of the original design with artistic touch up work to try to make it look "modernized". They could have probably avoided controversy by just using new names and say they were "inspired" by the original Enterprise and left the Titan out of it. I think they know they haven't given us much fan service, particularly since the bulk of Season 2 and several episodes of season 1 weren't even in space, so I think they are probably going all out to end season 3 on a high note with fan service. They are giving us the TNG cast, and now they are giving us a TNG ship soup with notes of TOS-movies ship seasoning. I wouldn't be surprised if we also revisit some memorable planets too at this point. They were resistant to the idea of Picard being TNG season 8 from the start, and I fear they are jumping from one extreme to the other now. Guess we'll see when the season starts to drop.
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