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Article: D&D Community Outrage over leaked OGL 2.0 document

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    #2
     –  Last edited by Josh Broughm; 3 Weeks Ago.
    I think they backtracked HARD on this.

    EDIT:
    Link to the DnDB article addressing this:
    https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1423...me-license-ogl
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    #3
    I think they backtracked HARD on this.

    EDIT:
    Link to the DnDB article addressing this:
    https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1423...me-license-ogl
    I saw this, while I'm glad they've backtracked on some of the more controversial aspects, I'm waiting to see the final version of the new OGL. Its still a win but it should never have come to this.
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    I saw this, while I'm glad they've backtracked on some of the more controversial aspects, I'm waiting to see the final version of the new OGL. Its still a win but it should never have come to this.
    I like how they try to spin it as a "win-win" and that they always had planned on getting community feedback. I'm sure the DDB sub cancellation campaign plus all the biggest beneficiaries of the current OGL getting ready to turn around and become major competitors to WOTC had nothing to do with any of it. Cool
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    Its a Corporation doing Greedy Corporation things. I'm glad they backpedaled like Quark being caught by Odo, but Quark could redeem himself....HASBRO.....CAN'T. Their catching heat from the MTG players & community as well,
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    #6
    From looking into this at first WotC plan was to just let it blow over and hoped no one would read it seeming to forget the community this is aimed at created the title of Rules lawyer and they are more than willing to read through hundred page documents and debate meaning of it. Then they tried to phrase it like the community won in a hope that they would give up. Now the community doubling down as the statement just says things that either were true in the first place, you own what you make (Wizards just gets the money from it), or things contradicted by multiple sources inside the company, WotC cares about consumers. For positive though it's the first time I have seen people across all TTRPG scene with not only basically every DnD player banding together but also Pathfinder, WarHammer and basically every other TTRPG fan and other companies helping out. Like the amount of how to transfer DnD ideas to other systems post I've seen across al social media is great to see.
    I just hope Star Trek Adventures won't get hit by this mess as I was looking forward to playing that when I find a group.
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    From looking into this at first WotC plan was to just let it blow over and hoped no one would read it seeming to forget the community this is aimed at created the title of Rules lawyer and they are more than willing to read through hundred page documents and debate meaning of it. Then they tried to phrase it like the community won in a hope that they would give up. Now the community doubling down as the statement just says things that either were true in the first place, you own what you make (Wizards just gets the money from it), or things contradicted by multiple sources inside the company, WotC cares about consumers. For positive though it's the first time I have seen people across all TTRPG scene with not only basically every DnD player banding together but also Pathfinder, WarHammer and basically every other TTRPG fan and other companies helping out. Like the amount of how to transfer DnD ideas to other systems post I've seen across al social media is great to see.
    I just hope Star Trek Adventures won't get hit by this mess as I was looking forward to playing that when I find a group.
    Star Trek Adventures is a product of Modiphius and uses their own system so I doubt any outrange around WOTC/DnD will affect that.
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    Star Trek Adventures is a product of Modiphius and uses their own system so I doubt any outrange around WOTC/DnD will affect that.
    I hope so. The original OGL was pretty far reaching so hoping if it was covered by it the new one makes it exempt or they can go under the Pazio Open RPG license.
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    I hope so. The original OGL was pretty far reaching so hoping if it was covered by it the new one makes it exempt or they can go under the Pazio Open RPG license.
    STA wouldn't be covered by WOTC/Hasbros licence as it's an entirely original system by the company who made the game.
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    STA wouldn't be covered by WOTC/Hasbros licence as it's an entirely original system by the company who made the game.
    Good to hear. I wasn’t aware the system was an in house creation.
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    Figures this happens right when im thinking about getting into the game.
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    Figures this happens right when im thinking about getting into the game.
    It wouldn't impact your gaming experience, it only affects those writing adventures, and other material who want to use the D&D branding. If you just wanted to play the game, it changes nothing, the OGL 1.0 didn't impact that either.

    Legal Eagle has done a video on the legal aspects.

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    Seems they've made a 180-degree turn. Ah, sweet victory.
    https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1439...eative-commons
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    IMO, they tried to do this because of how OUT OF CONTROL successful Critical Role has gotten. This attempted move made them lose money like a waterfall.
    Money talks...and it has a loud voice.
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