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Article: Star Trek: Axanar avoids copyright trial

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     –  Last edited by SCOOP; Mon 18 Sep, 2017 9:04 AM.
    Honestly, I can't fight that feeling CBS/PARA knew very, very well that they'll produce a turd with Discovery, so they went after the little guy who might actually be able to challenge them with a quality production.. That's oozing with pettiness if you ask me.. Just look at the ship at the top of the article's page, it's hilarious that Axanar can design more believable looking vessels of the TOS era than Discovery can who, naturally, went overboard with overly futurey looking technology..

    I like that guy's commentary regarding the whole issue:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it-6YP8e-B4

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    'all of which breach the guidelines CBS and Paradox released in June of 2016.' Stellaris's ST NewHorizons mod, haha xD
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     –  Last edited by Nesta; Mon 18 Sep, 2017 12:23 PM.
    You might very well be right. They are afraid of Anaxar, seeing its potential and the amount of peole willing to pay for it. They are afraid that we will leave Discovery, which they know will flop, and go watch, and support, Anaxar. So what do they do? They go after it, creating some guidelines along the way to "Justify" their claims. It is really sad to see this, Anaxar could have been contracted by CBS/Paramount, and been one of the best movies (maybe even series) Star Trek has ever seen! Anaxar was the boost Star Trek needed to return to its former glory. Sadly, Paramount and CBS don't see it that way.
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    While I didn't care at all about Anaxar, I had a buddy who was real excited about it - he saw a bit and thought it was the next official Star Trek thing due to the major actors in the show. But he also thought it sucked - poor writing, poor acting/directing. When I told him it was actually a fan thing, his reaction was basically "Oooh, that explains it." He immediately assumed that it was a "one take only" budget thing, explaining why even veteran actors seemed to be of lower quality than their norm.

    He's looking forward to Discovery now, which I'm also ambivalent about. I'll wait to see what he says about that. Tongue Out
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    Did they change the name to Anaxar or something, or is it just a typo?
    Huh, I never noticed that. Blame the editor! (Which isn't me anymore!)

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    Did they change the name to Anaxar or something, or is it just a typo?
    Huh, I never noticed that. Blame the editor! (Which isn't me anymore!)
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    I seem to have made a mistake there, it is indeed Axanar. Shame on you, Eaglesg for not catching that! Big Grin
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    #7
    Indeed, I mean, 1.4 million and you still need two other kickstarters? I know it takes a lot of funds to create a movie, but still...
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     –  Last edited by SCOOP; Mon 18 Sep, 2017 4:04 PM.
    While I didn't care at all about Anaxar, I had a buddy who was real excited about it - he saw a bit and thought it was the next official Star Trek thing due to the major actors in the show. But he also thought it sucked - poor writing, poor acting/directing. When I told him it was actually a fan thing, his reaction was basically "Oooh, that explains it." He immediately assumed that it was a "one take only" budget thing, explaining why even veteran actors seemed to be of lower quality than their norm.

    He's looking forward to Discovery now, which I'm also ambivalent about. I'll wait to see what he says about that. Tongue Out
    I agree that Axanar's plot isn't exactly very creative, it's, in fact, rather safe and conventional.. It's basically a war movie and an arms race where fed and klingons try to gain the upper hand by coming up with better and better ship designs all the way up to D7 cruisers and the constitution class..

    That, however, sounds and looks way more reasonable to me than anything I've ever heard about Discovery.. Like disco being a prequel+reboot, out of place technology that isn't appropriate for the T0S era, awkward klingons, or new characters suddenly being related to famous characters like spock in a hilarious attempt to win over the hardcore Trek crowd, I suppose?? lol

    This looks a million times more appropriate for Kirk:



    than this:
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    Kinda looks like a ship you would see in Star Trek Online.

    However,
    what it is really all about you can read up here: http://www.startrek.com/fan-films.

    This one, especially, drives me furious:
    The fan production must be less than 15 minutes for a single self-contained story, or no more than 2 segments, episodes or parts, not to exceed 30 minutes total, with NO additional seasons, episodes, parts, sequels or remakes.
    Is CBS/PARA butthurt now or what? They could at least do it like unity engine and only start to charge them once they make actual money with it or straight up buy Axanar when it's that obvious (kickstarter campaign) that the fans wanna buy Axanar.
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    I watched the prelude and had to put aside expectations. It was reasonably well-made for the budget (acting to the side). All Axanar had to do was not profit from it ...

    If changes are going to be made so Axanar can be made without a lawsuit, then good luck to that project.
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    Did they change the name to Anaxar or something, or is it just a typo?
    Huh, I never noticed that. Blame the editor! (Which isn't me anymore!)
    I seem to have made a mistake there, it is indeed Axanar. Shame on you, Eaglesg for not catching that! Big Grin
    My bad, I should stop editing articles so late lol
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    A lot of times when i read people saying they hate things in Startrek movies or series i wonder if that is really what they mean.

    No one watches something they hate right? But i'm sure 99,9% of the people "hating" a certain movie or series did watch every second of it and enjoyed doing so. So i usually read hate as "would've liked it better if it had been some other way"

    I personally loved prelude and was looking forward to the full movie. But i also enjoyed Enterprise, the new movies and a lot of fan productions.

    Sure there's things about Enterprise that could've been better. Sure there's a lot about the movies i don't agree with and could've been a much better experience for me if done different. Yes most if not all fan productions have elements that emphasize the fact that they are amateur fan productions.

    But that still did not make me not enjoy watching them. Okay, the Animated series has so much things that i actually dislike it. That's the reason The Animated Series contains to this date the only canon i have not yet seen. I hate the experience of watching it so i don't.


    The prequel/betweenqual/sequel concept is actually fine with me. I love those actually.

    But of-course there's a lot wrong with Discovery. I hate the whole reboot idea. It shows a premeditated disregard (if not disrespect) of the continuity and history of the universe and legacy you presume to want to be a part of. There are actually very few alternate universe/timeline stories (in or out of the Trek universe) that i like. The only one i actually could in all honesty call awesome is "in a mirror darkly".

    So for Discovery to be a prequel but not in the universe/timeline of either Kelvin or the original universe doesn't sit right with me. This'll mean we're gonna get a Kelvin sauce over the original universe canon with a kind of JJ taste. Hardly a good thing.

    But having said that i know i am going to watch every second, enjoy the hell out of it and will find things in the series that i'll find awesome and going to absolutely love. I can't wait to be spamming the F5 button waiting for the first torrents to pop up!
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    Oh dear, I ment to click on the "like" button but I misclicked and it became a "dislike", and it won't be cancelled...
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    Haha! Wooow.... phew... Well, that gets the blood flowing.. It's my first dislike!! Big Grin
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