I was told we have an excellent pension plan, we get 100% of our normal annual salary while we were active.
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I was told we have an excellent pension plan, we get 100% of our normal annual salary while we were active.
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I have passed my CL 4 exam and yet im still just a petty officer 3rd class, what else do I need to do to become an officer in the fleet?
Respectfully Tim Jerrom.
I believe you should be an ensign now if it's the exam i think your talking about, but to attain an officer position within the fleet you must find a division/department you wish to work in, and then apply for a position if they have any open, which you can find here.
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Hiya Tim,
The Administrative Exam opens the door for you to fill a fleet administrative positions (CL4). Passing the course is not an automatic promotion. Only the Command Course (required for CL5+ positions) and the Entrance Exam will earn you an automatic promotions to Ensign and Petty Officer 3rd Class.
However, with the Administrative Exam under your belt, you are open to apply to any CL4 position. Which in turn could garner a provisional promotion to Lieutenant (JG).
The provisional status is reviewed after a period, where the Lieutenant (JG) rank can become permanent.
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Is it just me, or are there not actually any positions that require the admin course that don't also require the command course?
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It doesn't appear so.
"There's a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed it. But let's keep going and see what happens..."
All of the positions require the basic admin course since all CL4 positions have some basic form of administration to do, CL5 need the command course for the added administration and leadership duties that the positions require you to have.
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That is at odds with the idea that has repeatedly been put forward that the Administration courses are for CL4 and Command is for CL5 and up. (See above, and see a post or two posts by Academy Staff regarding the course system)
What the reality is is you need command to have any position in the fleet regardless of clearance level and duties, and you might need admin or some other course.
Also, despite being labeled to command course, I find some of the positions don't seem to actually be command related, further adding to the confusion.
The descriptions need to be made consistent with the reality.
You might want to keep in mind that there hasn't been very many job openings since the reformed academy courses, some position listings still list the old departmental courses that no longer exist such as the foreign service officer position that shouldn't theoretically have command course just the admin course. Aswell as i highly doubt this is the place to be raising this issue.
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Bingo, the job listings havn't been updated in some cases. I've appropriately updated the Foreign Service Officer advert to reflect this.
For future reference the Entrance + Admin Course allows you to apply for any CL4 position such as Foreign Service Officer or Away Team Leader while adding the Command Course to that allows you to apply for CL5 positions such as a Division Commanding or Executive Officer.
That said, it doesn't take much time to do the Command Course and passing it as well can only help any application you make.
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At this time I don't believe I would be reliable enough for the positions. I can keep records and manage things just fine, but I am sure you have noticed by now my tendency to come and go at random intervals.
I was just a bit confused by the mismatch. Things like that bug me.
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Sorry for posting in such an old topic, this thread might even be archived, but anyway... just wanting to see. Roughly 6 years ago I posted this (in this topic:
So 16 years in my membership I wonder, how long have you been in the UFP? Any of the old band still here?
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From the post thread, I see some CL3 colors and some have CL4 and CL5 colors - so definitely many may be around!
I reckon your post here also means you are back from your service?
On behalf of Starfleet Command, welcome back to the UFPlanets Community!
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@Alex L,
Avenger is still here, One of the few that have the Achievement "Pillar of the Community".