[dronjo13]

Ok i finally got to lvl 50. I am a science captain with a scinece ship but the lvl 45 one. I know that i need a new ship but i need to know if science ship are even good or shuld i go for a cruser or something else. Even tho I'm a long way away from getting a new ship with the ship moduels being so expensive but i want to get ready for it. I would love any suggestions and help. Tnx in advance

[ForTheGamer]

I'm assuming with your avatar being Starfleet, you are starfleet and not like Romulan.

Vesta or Nova are you primary options. Vesta has flexibility, whereas the Nova costs only the fleet modules you can put it in. The Dyson Destroyers are probably the best in terms of damage, but if you go that route, you might as well buy the 9 pack (or take 7 years to save up the DIL for it).

In terms of Cruisers, your best options are the Odyssey for flexibility, Avenger for damage, Sovereign for damage with tanking, or the Yamaguchi for support. With the way crew is still broken, the best tank is probably the Galaxy. Or I think so with my Gamble build.

If for whatever reason you want Escorts, you'll want to look at the Defiant or Hephaestus for pure damage, the Andorian Escort for flexibility due to 3 different ships, the Maelstrom is pretty good at tanking, while the Armitage I find is pretty good at support (I usually give it shield spawns). The Aquarius is also an option, but only if you fly it as a defensive beam slasher.

That's roughly about the ships I can think of that you'd like to look into. I'm not adding lock box ships simply because I haven't played them. At all. If you need more help, let me know.

[Three of Seven]

The first question would be, do you have any access to Zen? Such as converting Dilithium to Zen. If you are unable to get that, then that would rule out the Vesta.

There are good lock box ships around to be able to buy for science, such as the Temporal Science Vessel and the Recluse, but that's going to depend on your EC.

The Nebula is a good ship to fly though, that's one I have liked.

[Wesstan]

The first question would be, do you have any access to Zen? Such as converting Dilithium to Zen. If you are unable to get that, then that would rule out the Vesta.

There are good lock box ships around to be able to buy for science, such as the Temporal Science Vessel and the Recluse, but that's going to depend on your EC.

The Nebula is a good ship to fly though, that's one I have liked.

i agree about the nebula. its a solid and fun to fly ship. other than that i adore the vesta

[Dark]

So the first question is, what are your resources? Are you willing to spend Zen, Dil, or EC?

The second question is, what kind of ship do you want to fly? For example, the Recluse and Vesta are both excellent ships but play very differently, with the Recluse being sluggish but tough, and the Vesta being zippy but fragile.

How good a ship is really depends on how its built and its captain, it's not like Science Ships suck compared to Cruisers or Escorts, if you know what you're doing. Last night I ended up in a PUG for ISE where I was the only person who was not in a Science Ship. The captain with the highest DPS among them was 3k more than their lowest, and that guy avoided dying while the rest all blew up once.

The Recluse is still the best support ship in the game, and is one of the few ships with frigate hangers (Mesh Weavers) accessible to Fed captains. The Vesta is an excellent ship overall, being able to load DHCs with good maneuverability and 1 hanger. Toss in some Elite Scorps and that's 3k DPS in an STF right there.

[dronjo13]

Well i love my science ship and i would like to stay in a ship of that class if they are useful. I sadly dont have access to Zen but i would save my DIL or EC for a ship (even tho 1 ship module is like 7 mil). Dont even know how much i would need but it seems that i would go for a Recluse or a vesta maybe nova. I need a good ship like to start my lvl 50 good dmg it dosent have to be like 999999 dmg but a good dmg so i dont feel useless in Elite runs. So what do you guys think of all the scinece ships which one is good for a noob-beginner and not too hard to get ??

[Dark]

Unfortunately, a good Tier 5.5 (10 consoles) Lockbox ship like the Recluse or Wells is usually around 80 million EC, and a Zen ship is going to run around 1000 Zen. The cheapest top tier ship therefore be a Fleet ship at 4 modules and a chunk of Fleet Credits. That's around 30 mil, I believe.

I'm guessing you're in a T4 ship right now? A Long Range Science Vessel like the Voyager, with 7 console slots?

In that case a T5 ship (with 9 consoles) is still an upgrade, and the cheapest would actually be the Mirror versions from the exchange. Not sure about the price, but they're pretty common and fairly cheap. The science versions would be the Mirror Universe Reconnaissance Science Vessel and the Mirror Universe Deep Space Science Vessel. Of those two, I recommend the MU Reconnaissance because you're able to carry two Tactical Team 1s, allowing you to have automatically redistributing shields 2/3rds of the time (if you spam them when they're off cooldown) while still having an Lt Tac slot left for Fire At Will or something.

[Dark]

As for making sure your ship does decent damage, there's two basic things you should do.

First of all, use only one energy type. The reason for this is because energy-specific damage boost tactical consoles are higher than type-specific damage boost tactical consoles. The difference between a Beams/Cannon Tac Console and a Phaser/Disruptor/whatever Very Rare Mk XII console is 20% vs 30%. With three tactical console slots on the MU Recon, that's a 30% difference in base damage for your energy weapons. The gap is smaller with Fleet tac consoles, 27.9% vs 31.9%, so only 12% with three consoles. There's still very little reason to ever deliberately lower your damage that way.

Next, try to use only one type of weapons. Cannons and Turrets are affected by Cannon Scatter Volley and Cannon Rapid Fire, while Beam Arrays and Dual Beam Banks are affected by Beam Overload and Beam Fire At Will. If you mix weapons, then some of your weapons won't be affected by a particular ability, so it's an inefficient use of that ability.

After that you're going to want to get your Weapon power high, but Science abilities require Aux Power so you'll have to find the most effective balance (while keeping Shields at 50, usually). That's why the Vesta is so good - it comes with an Aux-powered DHC. By taking off the Aux DHC and dismissing/reclaiming the ship, you can load out a Vesta entirely with Aux DHCs fore (and stick whatever aft), allowing you to mostly ignore weapon power in favor of Aux, giving you good "weapon" power without hurting your science abilities.

[dronjo13]

Omg soo much info tnx soo much. May i ask if any of you are on the UFP TeamSpeak so i can like come for lessons and such, cause there is soo much to learn ?

[Besieged]

My science officer is simply a pain monster in a Risian Corvette with full Aegis kit, running 3x VR Mk XI Tetryon banks, 1x VR Mk XI Dual Tetryon beam bank (forward), then 2x R MK X Tetryon Beam, 1x R Mk XI Quantum Mine layer to the rear. Add in Dispersal Pattern Beta III, and watch things just "esplode"

About the only thing I feel like I'm missing from the build at this moment is that I would like to replace the Quantum mines with the Tethered-type mines, but I don't have the lobi for those.

[ForTheGamer]

I myself don't have any way to speak right now on TeamSpeak. But if you need any questions answered, feel free to post them here or send me a PM. I'm always willing to lend a hand. I don't know absolutely everything, but I will help out when I can.

You may also want to think up what style of play you like. Many times, figuring out how you want to play will lead you to the type of ship you want. You'll see which types of skills you want, and how many slots you need.

As Dark says, a "cheap" replacement ship for right now would be either MU ship. I'm not sure why I had not mentioned them previously, and I apologize for that.

[dronjo13]

You have been of soo much help guys im happy that Im on UFP and i think im gonna go for the MU ship for now and figure out the playstile and everything soooo tnx soo much and expect a PM from very soon for more info on 99% of the game