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Posted Mon 14 Aug, 2017 8:33 PM
All,
I am happy to announce that following a detailed review by the Federation Executive Office (FEO) - we have decided to drop the mandatory educational requirements for both CL4 and CL5 positions.
The decision was taken due to what we feel is an unnecessary burden on good people willing to step up, but who sincerely dislike having to take and pass an exam to do so.
The Academy Exams will remain as they currently are, but will instead provide achievements/promotions as they currently do.
- Orientation Exam will provide an achievement & promote from Crewman to Petty Officer 3rd Class.
- Officer Qualification will provide an achievement.
- Command Exam will provide an Achievement and will be the only way to achieve Ensign without volunteering.
It is hoped that by removing this step, will enable people to want to step up to volunteer.
This does not however remove the right for Divisional/Department Leaders to request certain positions require these exams if they so choose. However, they will not be enforced at the Permission Change Request (PCR) level.
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Posted Mon 14 Aug, 2017 8:36 PM
This is a great decision imo. Lifting the exams will help the community grow as well! Looking forward to seeing more people getting involved!
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Posted Mon 14 Aug, 2017 8:41 PM
This is good news, makes exams more flavourful for people who want to do them, but doesn't force people if they want to volunteer but don't want to take exams.
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Posted Mon 14 Aug, 2017 8:46 PM
Can someone take two position for example (RSO and awayteam leader )
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Posted Mon 14 Aug, 2017 8:49 PM
Can someone take two position for example (RSO and awayteam leader )
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Posted Mon 14 Aug, 2017 8:52 PM
Yes, if you want to.
Cool I've already applied and waiting for the call of duty
i finished those exam the day I've joined the fleet
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Posted Mon 14 Aug, 2017 9:28 PM
Awesome change Kerry!
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Posted Tue 15 Aug, 2017 6:23 AM
Nice change, hopefully more people will now volunteer for positions when they're available [emoji16]
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Posted Tue 15 Aug, 2017 10:22 AM
I support the removal of the CL4 exam, however I am not so sure about the CL5 one.
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Posted Tue 15 Aug, 2017 12:34 PM
I'll put on my grumpy Caymen hat. I think the exams were fine to have in place, and they were not that huge of a barrier in my opinion. I mean, I'm sure a big enough number of people complained (or enough chatter at the CL5/6/Academy level was had) to come to this decision. But I just feel like people need to be vetted and the exams were a simple piece of that vetting. They were not the only piece, just one (quite easy) piece. Again, just my opinion.
Ok, grumpy hat off. "Yay more volunteers!"
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Posted Tue 15 Aug, 2017 4:52 PM
I'll put on my grumpy Caymen hat. I think the exams were fine to have in place, and they were not that huge of a barrier in my opinion. I mean, I'm sure a big enough number of people complained (or enough chatter at the CL5/6/Academy level was had) to come to this decision. But I just feel like people need to be vetted and the exams were a simple piece of that vetting. They were not the only piece, just one (quite easy) piece. Again, just my opinion.
Ok, grumpy hat off. "Yay more volunteers!"
This is how I feel.
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Posted Tue 15 Aug, 2017 5:10 PM
I support the removal of the CL4 exam, however I am not so sure about the CL5 one.
It's all situational, most people who reach CL5 level have often had experience in a role, which is more valuable than passing an exam. Not everyone who passes the CL5 exam wants to be CL5 or can do the role. There are some people who have taken on a CL5 role and left it a few weeks later for various reasons.
Personally, I like taking exams, I would choose to do them personally. However, my opinion is, if you can prove you can do something, you are more qualified than someone who has a piece of paper.
The exams do teach you a bit about the UFP and how it works, so handy for those who want to learn. Those who are already aware of the UFP would find them useless.
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Posted Tue 15 Aug, 2017 5:33 PM
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Last edited by Caymen Greener; Tue 15 Aug, 2017 5:52 PM.
Yeah, I totally see the points you (Three and Sammy) are making, and I would agree that taking exams to play a game could be kinda silly. I mean, I always wanted an exam for the roleplay stuff back when it was simming, and as you mentioned Three it would be more of a "here is how you write well in our club" tutorial. I just think there is a place for people (mostly CL4/5 or higher, or perhaps in niche games/areas) to benefit from showing they have some synopses flowing properly. That can be shown, for sure. But the exam just adds to it. Again, additional info to vet someone, not the core reason by far.
TL;DR: I guess I don't have a problem with this decision, just liked having the CL4+ exams as an easy baseline. No rage from my end.
EDIT: I of course have to be concerned about me being this guy....
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Posted Wed 16 Aug, 2017 12:40 AM
I enjoyed them, heck I remember the old ones before it was just 3.
It was nice to see you pass and the nostalgia of accomplishment when you did pass.
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Posted Wed 16 Aug, 2017 2:19 PM
I enjoyed them, heck I remember the old ones before it was just 3.
It was nice to see you pass and the nostalgia of accomplishment when you did pass.
Well, you can still take them and pass them