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Posted Wed 09 Mar, 2022 10:02 PM
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"Penance"
US Airdate: 10/03/2022 (Paramount+)
International: 11/03/2022 (Amazon Prime)
This thread is for the pre and post discussion of the second episode "Penance" - this will be a spoiler filled discussion so if you've found your way past the warnings in the activity stream and the spoiler tag on the thread, this is your last chance to turn back, or at least it will be at the end of this first post. You have been warned!
Picard finds himself transported to an alternate timeline in the year 2400 where his longtime nemesis, Q, has orchestrated one final “trial.” Picard searches for his trusted crew as he attempts to find the cause of this dystopian future..
You can find a preview of the episode details here. The videos may not work depending on your region.
Penance is episode 2 of 10.
Written by: Akiva Goldsman & Terry Matalas & Christopher Monfette
Directed by: Doug Aarniokoski
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Posted Wed 09 Mar, 2022 10:05 PM
Looking forward to this especially after seeing the teaser trailer last night
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Posted Fri 11 Mar, 2022 11:03 AM
I... liked it, though I honestly didn't expect to. I mean the trophy room...
And if the divergence is what I think it is, I'm mucho looking forward to how they're handling the logistics of it.
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Posted Fri 11 Mar, 2022 2:25 PM
It was a decent episode like how they went about setting up why they were going to go to the past, the borg queen looked amazing. and loved all the easter eggs in the episode.
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Posted Fri 11 Mar, 2022 3:51 PM
This has to be one of the darkest Trek episodes since In the Pale Moonlight.
I liked it a lot and I'm looking forward to the rest of the season, though I'm seriously considering binge-watching it instead of one episode per week.
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This has to be one of the darkest Trek episodes since In the Pale Moonlight.
I think "In a Mirror Darkly" was darker 
Seriously this is so much better than Season 1.
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I found it amusing the number of Trek episode names Q was able to slip into just a few sentences, likes "Yesterdays Enterprise."
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Posted Fri 11 Mar, 2022 10:24 PM
Damn that alternate history is a brutal place! 
They made the Terrans look like snivelling children by comparison lol!
I think it was well done and the visuals of the Borg Queen were really good. Nice to see a few familiar "faces" in the trophy room in Picard's home! 
Glad they got a mention of the slingshot round the sun in there; though funny that Picard said Kirk used the Enterprise for it which we know to be wrong. Maybe history got confused over the details after several centuries.
I'm looking forward to where this story goes. Definitely got me interested.
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Posted Fri 11 Mar, 2022 10:32 PM
Glad they got a mention of the slingshot round the sun in there; though funny that Picard said Kirk used the Enterprise for it which we know to be wrong. Maybe history got confused over the details after several centuries.
While the BOP version is probably the most well known, the Enterprise did it twice, first time by accident in Tomorrow Is Yesterday and again in Assignment: Earth.
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While the BOP version is probably the most well known, the Enterprise did it twice, first time by accident in Tomorrow Is Yesterday and again in Assignment: Earth.
Good catch; I'd forgotten those two!
Also did anoyone notice that the announcer of the eradication ceremony was none other than Brent Spiner? They even had a holo-statue of a Soong family member!
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I did, his voice is distinctive. And with them even shouting out Ben Sisko, I think they missed an opportunity by not having Evil!Annika have a picture of her parents (that would clearly be a production still from Voyager to work the way I'd do it) on her desk or something.
I don't know where, but someone on I think reddit pointed out that they clearly had a DS9 fan on staff for this:
- "General Sisko" who won't be seen on screen, sadly as the logistics are impossible
- Miles O'Brien was also referenced in Seven's briefing in the President's Office
- Do I even need to mention the trophy room at Picard's house?
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Posted Sun 13 Mar, 2022 6:08 AM
2 of out 2 so far in this session! Definitely better than the first one.
Do I even need to mention the trophy room at Picard's house?
and who was that Ferengi over there? 
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Posted Sun 13 Mar, 2022 6:28 PM
2 of out 2 so far in this session! Definitely better than the first one.
and who was that Ferengi over there?
Well, it wasn't mentioned but it would have to have been either Zek himself or Nog. 
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Posted Sun 13 Mar, 2022 6:41 PM
Well, it wasn't mentioned but it would have to have been either Zek himself or Nog.
It was probably Zek he had the Staff below him.
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It was probably Zek he had the Staff below him.
True, I mean without DS9 related shenanigans, it's highly unlikely that Rom ever got the office as in the prime timeline.
