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"A Quality Of Mercy"
US Airdate: 07/06/2022 (Paramount+)
International: Varies (UK Paramount+ releases episodes on Wednesdays and is 5 episodes behind the US)
This thread is for the pre and post discussion of the season finale "A Quality Of Mercy" - this will be a spoiler filled discussion so if you've found your way past the warnings in the activity stream and the spoiler tag on the thread, this is your last chance to turn back, or at least it will be at the end of this first post. You have been warned! I'm going to triple spoiler this one as it may give the game away a bit if you watch the trailers closely enough.
Synopsis:
Trailer oddities:
Last chance!
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I think we're in for a treat with this one!
You can find a preview of the episode details here, if you dare... As the conclusion to Season 1, this sees the end of the weekly Trek episode posts until Season 2 appears on our screens.
A Quality Of Mercy is the Season 1 finale, 10 of 10.
Written by: Henry Alonso Myers & Akiva Goldsman
Directed by: Chris Fisher
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 10:05 AM
Why does it imply spock has no idea about the romulans? The vulcans and romulans were obviously warp capable when their species split so I can't imagine why spock wouldn't know about them.
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This is an alternate telling of Balance of Terror & it is AMAZING!!!!
Also, Una being HAULED AWAY at the end gives off BEST OF BOTH WORLDS CLIFFHANGER VIBES & I AM HER FOR THAT!!!!!
So what's next? Disco, LD or Picard?
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 11:18 AM
So what's next? Disco, LD or Picard?
Lower Decks next season is this summer, the second half of Prodigy S1 is later this year, Picard is probably going to be early 2023. I'm not sure when Discovery S5 is due, though the word is that initial shooting and production is due to begin shortly if it hasn't already - there's a rumour that it'll be the final season too, but that's not confirmed.
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 5:14 PM
Wrath of KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
now I want this uniform in STO, updated look of course. cos damn does that look gooooood
"What good is a rule if you're not willing to die for it...? Or break it."
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 6:58 PM
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Pike in that uniform was.... I already saw SNW as the show that saved Trek, but ♥♥♥♥ me sideways on a pogostick, PIKE IN THAT UNIFORM!#
Edit:
Of all the episodes they could've chosen they chose... wisely indeed. One of my favourites.
But what is it with NuTrek and having incredibly awesome Trek moments in the last episode of the first season?
EDIT EDIT: OH you cheeky sods. Not a miracle worker, eh?
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 7:58 PM
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As much of a fan I am of SNW and as much as I enjoyed this episode... I disliked Paul Wesley's James T. Kirk just as much... or maybe more. There was really NOTHING about his portrayal that make me believe he was anything like Shatner's Kirk or would ever evolve into that character.. A total fail in casting him for that part. Could the problem be that Anson's Pike is so brilliant it make Paul's Kirk appear as dismal as I believe it was?
OK, overall a great season. Can't wait for Season 2!
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 8:04 PM
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. Could the problem be that Anton's Pike is so brilliant it make Paul's Kirk appear as dismal as I believe it was?
OK, overall a great season. Can't wait for Season 2!
This, pretty much. Between this, the framing of the various shots, including the extra light on Pike's eyes and us knowing what's supposed to happen, Kirk was never going to take centre stage the way we know the character would in literally any other Star Trek work. And that wasn't what we were expecting. Hell, I kept waiting for Kirk to take the centre seat on the Enterprise just because.
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 8:35 PM
As much of a fan I am of SNW and as much as I enjoyed this episode... I disliked Paul Wesley's James T. Kirk just as much... or maybe more. There was really NOTHING about his portrayal that make me believe he was anything like Shatner's Kirk or would ever evolve into that character.. A total fail in casting him for that part. Could the problem be that Anton's Pike is so brilliant it make Paul's Kirk appear as dismal as I believe it was?
OK, overall a great season. Can't wait for Season 2!
While I've not seen the episode myself and just a clip, Wesley's Kirk seems to be devoid of Shatner's presence or Pine's charisma - this Kirk has some of the flashes, but is lacking the steely nerve and bravado we expect from the character. I'm hoping this is intentional for the purposes of the "What If?" to show how much the changed events impacted the normal flow of time and when he reappears, we'll see that maverick attitude coming through.
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 9:32 PM
The Kirk we have seen in this episode is of course different from the one we know. Don't forget he is not commanding the Enterprise but what seems to be a more 2nd Class Starship.
The alternate version of Balance of Terror is also well made the only things i did not like was the unnecessary thing with Una at the end of the episode and the terrible CGI with Hansons death.
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 10:57 PM
I thought this episode was excellent and I loved the nod to Spock's importance to the timeline overall. I am hoping that Paul Wesleys Kirk is as stated by others lacking due to not being the central character. knowing Wesley's performances on Vampire Diaries presence is something he does not lack normally. The Scotty voice was not expected and amusing when I heard it. As season finales go it was a good one that leaves me wanting next season sooner rather than later.
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 11:42 PM
I like how Old!Pike didn't mention that all of that "fate of the galaxy" stuff is carried out together with Jim Kirk. Pike suspects, but of course can't know for certain.
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Posted Thu 07 Jul, 2022 11:43 PM
Enjoyed this episode and frankly thought they did a good job overall in their freshman season outing. I'd echo the sentiments on the Kirk portrayal. Hopefully it is just flat by design since this version of Kirk never had Spock or the rest of the Enterprise crew, nor the prestige of the ship, to further level up his ego. Otherwise, the Romulan uniforms and set were a nice update, and nice to see they didn't go too wild with the prosthetics. The only part I'm not really sure about was dropping the Una twist at the end, and only because Lower Decks basically used the same cliffhanger and that is due to pick up any time now.
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The Scotty voice was not expected and amusing when I heard it. As season finales go it was a good one that leaves me wanting next season sooner rather than later.
I too got a kick out of Scotty's voice during repairs. That was an awesome addition!
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One final comment on Wesley's performance. He reminded me more of Jim Carey than Jim Kirk! That is all.....
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Posted Fri 08 Jul, 2022 3:16 AM
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Digging the slick TWoK uniform on Pike
His uniform though is missing the gold stripe along the black stitch jacket for an Admiral