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Posted Mon 06 Nov, 2017 1:07 PM
EPISODE DISCUSSION:
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
This thread is for pre and post episode discussion of the 8th episode, Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum. If you do not wish for spoilers, then you have missed all the warnings in the title and activity stream, shocking! So if you are reading this post, then you should turn away now.
The episode first airs on the 5th November for American viewers and the 6th November for international viewers.
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Posted Mon 06 Nov, 2017 6:19 PM
I honestly don't even know what to think of this episode. More wizard aliens who ressemble the spores. Only the first ten-fifteen minutes of the back-up attempt were interesting.
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Posted Mon 06 Nov, 2017 8:33 PM
The cliffhangar reminded me of Errand of Mercy and the Organians
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Posted Tue 07 Nov, 2017 8:09 PM
I believe we will see the planet has the ability to transmit a signal into subspace, disrupting the ability of any cloaked ship to remain invisible.
As a result, I could see the Klingon's abandoning cloaking technology until the Romulan's learn how to bypass the effect 10 years later in Day of the Dove.
This would sort of bring us in line with when we know Klingon's are supposed to begin using this tech.
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Posted Tue 07 Nov, 2017 9:37 PM
Canon is already out of the window so, I don't think that will happen.
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Posted Wed 08 Nov, 2017 12:51 AM
Canon is already out of the window so, I don't think that will happen.
Canon and Continuity are not the same thing.
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Posted Wed 08 Nov, 2017 7:40 AM
Canon and Continuity are not the same thing.
He made a reference to TOS canon.
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Posted Wed 08 Nov, 2017 9:38 AM
This was a weird one for me.
The plot with the Klingons moving forward was nice for once but i still cannot stand having subtitles all the dammed time. The sets, costumes, make-up are amazing but you never see them as you need to constantly read the subtitles! And the Klingon speech is so agonizingly slow it is painful sometimes and the scenes feel overly long. It's as if every time we cut to the Klingons they are in the middle of some scenery-chewing Shakespearean proclamation.
The planet of swirly blue dust was a bit like Pandora from Avatar i thought, but with the whole place wanting to explore the galaxy i guess. Do they want ot act as peacekeepers and spread harmony, or is their some other nasty ulterior motive going on here? Getting into the mind of one of the crew and turning them "space mad" is an old Trek trick though, so that was at least consistent.
And what the hell ever happened to any sort of safety concerns! Lol, lets just walk up and touch the swirly blue mist thingy which might be harmless or might turn me inside out and eat my brains.....not what you expect from Starfleet's finest.
I liked some aspects of it, the intro shows that apart from its fancy engines Discovery is just another ship that can easily get smashed to pieces. And Stammets is getting interesting too, is he going crazy or is he swapping places with a mirror version every so slightly each time he jumps? The fact he though Tilly was the captain was the usual mirror sort of thing, where the nice sensible cast are often swapped to the pyschopath murdering dictator types in the mirror episodes, will we get to see Terran Captain Tilly? And will Stammets be fully mirror-evil eventually?
Overall not as fun as the previous episode by a long shot.
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Posted Wed 08 Nov, 2017 8:56 PM
He made a reference to TOS canon.
While I know it’s just semantics, it is important to make sure people know the difference between “Canon” and “Continuity” for the purposes of what is looking like years of episode discussion.
TOS Continuity is out the window in a way however it is very difficult to stick to visual continuity from a show made in the 60’s.
Canon simple means it was actually seen on screen or from an official novel or book. Like it or not, these Klingons, ships and characters are now Canon and in the prime universe.