Admiral
Star Trek Online Executive Officer
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 25 Sep, 2021 9:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
Dedicated
Rare (50 Points)
Volunteer for 1+ year
Unlocked Sat 20 Feb, 2021 10:00 PM
0.54% have received this achievement
The Fool
Rare (50 Points)
Got pranked on April 1st
Unlocked Thu 01 Apr, 2021 11:19 AM
0.45% have received this achievement
At the Helm [Legacy]
Rare (50 Points)
Be Head of Starfleet Operations
Unlocked Tue 08 Dec, 2020 3:00 PM
0.07% have received this achievement
Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Admiral
Unlocked Sat 26 Mar, 2022 9:49 PM
0.22% have received this achievement
Two Factored
Uncommon (25 Points)
Enabled Two Factor Authentication
Unlocked Sun 24 Oct, 2021 2:59 PM
0.59% have received this achievement
2
- Users who liked
- Remsus
- Bridger
Quote
Post ID: 473085
#211
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 1:43 AM
Surprised that they doing nothing for the DS9 30th all the Aaron Eisenberg and nog love they had when he was involved before he passed away was great thought that alone would have been a reason to look at something I guess the DS9 arc is something we should be thankful we got when we did.
Vice Admiral
Quartermaster
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 25 Mar, 2023 10:30 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
Dedicated
Rare (50 Points)
Volunteer for 1+ year
Unlocked Sat 20 Feb, 2021 11:02 PM
0.54% have received this achievement
The Fool
Rare (50 Points)
Got pranked on April 1st
Unlocked Thu 01 Apr, 2021 2:04 PM
0.45% have received this achievement
Vice Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Vice Admiral
Unlocked Sat 29 Jun, 2024 9:29 PM
0.29% have received this achievement
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Wed 02 Feb, 2022 3:03 AM
0.69% have received this achievement
Aspiring Author
Uncommon (25 Points)
Participate in a Short Story Competition
Unlocked Tue 29 Dec, 2020 5:16 PM
0.12% have received this achievement
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 2:11 AM
You'd think they could make a token effort and turn that hero ship museum thing on at least, or maybe just flip the Gamma recruit event on.
Captain
Pillar of the Community
Very Rare (100 Points)
Be a registered user for 10 years
Unlocked Sun 11 Jul, 2021 11:03 PM
36.01% have received this achievement
Investigative Reporter
Uncommon (25 Points)
Be Federation News Service XO
Unlocked Tue 20 Mar, 2018 11:00 PM
0.06% have received this achievement
Stepping Forward
Uncommon (25 Points)
Going from Clearance Level 3 to Clearance Level 4
Unlocked Sat 29 Sep, 2018 1:28 PM
1.86% have received this achievement
Captain
Uncommon (25 Points)
Ascend the ranks to reach the Captains chair
Unlocked Tue 20 Mar, 2018 10:41 PM
0.67% have received this achievement
Deans List
Uncommon (25 Points)
Pass all three Academy exams
Unlocked Sun 28 May, 2017 2:03 AM
3.88% have received this achievement
Correspondent
Rare (50 Points)
Submit a Federation News Service article
Unlocked Mon 03 Dec, 2018 5:00 PM
0.42% have received this achievement
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 5:03 AM
I kinda of forget you can do that I should really buy more of them than I currently do.
Vice Admiral
Quartermaster
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 18 Jun, 2022 9:19 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
...and On and On
Very Rare (100 Points)
Reach five-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked 1 Week Ago
0.08% have received this achievement
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 30 Mar, 2024 11:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
Dedicated
Rare (50 Points)
Volunteer for 1+ year
Unlocked Fri 24 Mar, 2023 4:06 AM
0.54% have received this achievement
Vice Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Vice Admiral
Unlocked Sat 29 Jun, 2024 9:37 PM
0.29% have received this achievement
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Sat 05 Nov, 2022 11:00 AM
0.69% have received this achievement
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 5:19 AM
More and more a think STO is the cash cow who is financing other games.
Nothing special regarding DS9 is disappointing but not surprising in the current state of the game.
Retired Admiral
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 24 Sep, 2022 9:24 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 21 Dec, 2019 10:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
...and On and On
Very Rare (100 Points)
Reach five-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Tue 14 Jun, 2022 8:00 PM
0.08% have received this achievement
Admiral Council
Rare (50 Points)
Join the Federation Executive Office
Unlocked Sun 02 Dec, 2018 3:00 PM
0.06% have received this achievement
Academy Dean
Rare (50 Points)
Be Head of Starfleet Academy
Unlocked Fri 18 May, 2018 6:03 PM
0.08% have received this achievement
Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Admiral
Unlocked Sat 28 Sep, 2019 9:08 PM
0.22% have received this achievement
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 9:54 AM
More and more a think STO is the cash cow who is financing other games.
I'm still of the opinion that the whole Magic: The Gathering debacle hurt Cryptic more than they let on and the majority of the cash is going towards getting them out of that hole.
Vice Admiral
Quartermaster
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 18 Jun, 2022 9:19 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
...and On and On
Very Rare (100 Points)
Reach five-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked 1 Week Ago
0.08% have received this achievement
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 30 Mar, 2024 11:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
Dedicated
Rare (50 Points)
Volunteer for 1+ year
Unlocked Fri 24 Mar, 2023 4:06 AM
0.54% have received this achievement
Vice Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Vice Admiral
Unlocked Sat 29 Jun, 2024 9:37 PM
0.29% have received this achievement
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Sat 05 Nov, 2022 11:00 AM
0.69% have received this achievement
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 10:21 AM
I'm still of the opinion that the whole Magic: The Gathering debacle hurt Cryptic more than they let on and the majority of the cash is going towards getting them out of that hole.
Magic: The Gathering debacle? I think I missed this, could you please give me a short recap? Thanks
Admiral
Gold Contributor
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 25 Mar, 2017 10:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
Gold Contributor
Very Rare (100 Points)
Subscribe to a monthly Gold Subscription
Unlocked Tue 10 Jan, 2017 4:00 PM
0.35% have received this achievement
...and On and On
Very Rare (100 Points)
Reach five-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Mon 01 Oct, 2018 10:02 PM
0.08% have received this achievement
Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Admiral
Unlocked Sun 24 Sep, 2017 7:45 AM
0.22% have received this achievement
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Grandfathered
0.69% have received this achievement
Deans List
Uncommon (25 Points)
Pass all three Academy exams
Unlocked Wed 07 Jan, 2015 2:21 AM
3.88% have received this achievement
2
- Users who liked
- Petrarch
- Remsus
Quote
Post ID: 473107
#217
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 10:36 AM
–
Last edited by Bridger; Thu 12 Jan, 2023 10:39 AM.
Magic: The Gathering debacle? I think I missed this, could you please give me a short recap? Thanks
They were developing a new game and moved a lot of devs from other games to work on them and it basically failed in open beta and was canceled.
So in short they lost a lot of money on it and fired many of the Devs (for us the most important one was "Spartan") working on it causing a big brain loss at Craptic.
“He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes;
he who does not ask a question remains a fool forever” ~ Chinese Proverb
Retired Admiral
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 24 Sep, 2022 9:24 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 21 Dec, 2019 10:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
...and On and On
Very Rare (100 Points)
Reach five-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Tue 14 Jun, 2022 8:00 PM
0.08% have received this achievement
Admiral Council
Rare (50 Points)
Join the Federation Executive Office
Unlocked Sun 02 Dec, 2018 3:00 PM
0.06% have received this achievement
Academy Dean
Rare (50 Points)
Be Head of Starfleet Academy
Unlocked Fri 18 May, 2018 6:03 PM
0.08% have received this achievement
Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Admiral
Unlocked Sat 28 Sep, 2019 9:08 PM
0.22% have received this achievement
2
- Users who liked
- Bridger
- Remsus
Quote
Post ID: 473113
#218
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 10:39 AM
Magic: The Gathering debacle? I think I missed this, could you please give me a short recap? Thanks
Short version: They were developing an MMO based on the cards called Magic: Legends - after an extended period of a lack of communication, Cryptic announced at the end of June 2021 that they were pulling the plug on it. The game never made it out of beta and a whole refund process started (as the microtransaction store, unusually for a beta, was active). It also resulted in most of the team getting laid off, about 44 people total including former STO dev Jetta if memory serves.
It's generally believed that they took quite a financial hit from it. Not enough to end the company obviously, but enough to leave a impressively large dent.
Rear Admiral
Global Moderator
Pillar of the Community
Very Rare (100 Points)
Be a registered user for 10 years
Unlocked Wed 04 Oct, 2023 10:07 AM
36.01% have received this achievement
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Mon 29 Apr, 2019 8:00 PM
0.69% have received this achievement
Rear Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Rear Admiral
Unlocked Sat 30 Dec, 2023 10:09 PM
0.48% have received this achievement
Starfleet's Finest [Legacy]
Common (10 Points)
Be a member of Starfleet Operations
Grandfathered
27.37% have received this achievement
tlhIngan SuvwI' [Legacy]
Common (10 Points)
Be a member of the House of Kular
Unlocked Sat 20 Apr, 2024 9:03 PM
12.73% have received this achievement
FAB-ulous
Common (10 Points)
Be a member of the Federation Administrative Bureau
Unlocked Wed 07 Apr, 2021 10:00 PM
0.34% have received this achievement
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 10:44 AM
They’ll never admit that bot farms are exploiting their product because then they have to admit to having poor management of the issue.
But if guys like Spencer can find, and even interview people involved in the process then Cryptic must surely be aware of the situation. They have way more data and a dev-side view of the situation.
There’s definitely the issue of there being nothing to spend dilithium on; I think any older/veteran players will experience this one you meet the end game (such as it is 😂).
But if there’s nothing to spend it on why are people farming so much? Well it’s obviously to turn into Zen to buy items from the ever-more expensive cash shop. The exploiters have taken advantage of this situation and it’s Cryptic who caused it.
Keep dropping gamble box ships that cost £200+ to buy and people will start looking to find alternatives. These farmers can grind out dilithium, swap to zen en-mass, buy keys and then sell the products for real cash; and they’ll still be making a profit AND saving the buyers a fortune in real cash prices too!
No wonder the game economy is knackered. 😂
Vice Admiral
Quartermaster
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 18 Jun, 2022 9:19 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
...and On and On
Very Rare (100 Points)
Reach five-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked 1 Week Ago
0.08% have received this achievement
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 30 Mar, 2024 11:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
Dedicated
Rare (50 Points)
Volunteer for 1+ year
Unlocked Fri 24 Mar, 2023 4:06 AM
0.54% have received this achievement
Vice Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Vice Admiral
Unlocked Sat 29 Jun, 2024 9:37 PM
0.29% have received this achievement
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Sat 05 Nov, 2022 11:00 AM
0.69% have received this achievement
Posted Thu 12 Jan, 2023 11:19 AM
–
Last edited by Remsus; Thu 12 Jan, 2023 11:22 AM.
Short version: They were developing an MMO based on the cards called Magic: Legends - after an extended period of a lack of communication, Cryptic announced at the end of June 2021 that they were pulling the plug on it. The game never made it out of beta and a whole refund process started (as the microtransaction store, unusually for a beta, was active). It also resulted in most of the team getting laid off, about 44 people total including former STO dev Jetta if memory serves.
It's generally believed that they took quite a financial hit from it. Not enough to end the company obviously, but enough to leave a impressively large dent.
They were developing a new game and moved a lot of devs from other games to work on them and it basically failed in open beta and was canceled.
So in short they lost a lot of money on it and fired many of the Devs (for us the most important one was "Spartan") working on it causing a big brain loss at Craptic.
Thank you two very much for the enlightenment.
I remember the card game back in the day when I was a student, but never played myself.
Admiral
Star Trek Online Executive Officer
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 25 Sep, 2021 9:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
Dedicated
Rare (50 Points)
Volunteer for 1+ year
Unlocked Sat 20 Feb, 2021 10:00 PM
0.54% have received this achievement
The Fool
Rare (50 Points)
Got pranked on April 1st
Unlocked Thu 01 Apr, 2021 11:19 AM
0.45% have received this achievement
At the Helm [Legacy]
Rare (50 Points)
Be Head of Starfleet Operations
Unlocked Tue 08 Dec, 2020 3:00 PM
0.07% have received this achievement
Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Admiral
Unlocked Sat 26 Mar, 2022 9:49 PM
0.22% have received this achievement
Two Factored
Uncommon (25 Points)
Enabled Two Factor Authentication
Unlocked Sun 24 Oct, 2021 2:59 PM
0.59% have received this achievement
4
- Users who liked
- darthnovawave
- Remsus
- Bridger
- Morris
Quote
Post ID: 473296
#221
Posted Wed 18 Jan, 2023 2:07 AM
Ten Forward Weekly 17/01/23
- First ship: World Razor
- Tobias Richter built the model for the World Razor
- Mauricio Tejerina ported the ship model Tobias built into STO
- Ship was originally designed by Sean Tourangeau who designed the original Luna class for the novels
- Ship is on the Galaxy skeleton, so can use any other normal Galaxy pieces with it(not Gal-X dred)
- Part of the "A Safe Galaxy" lockbox
- New "A Safe Galaxy" lockbox new vanity shield based on the space camo design of the La Sirena in the Confederation timeline of PIC S2
- World Razor comes with new phaser type. Obliviating phaser, can ignore some of enemy shields.
- New Trait cultural Conquest" Weapon firing Modes improve damage, remove hostile effects
- Console - Light of Civilization: +5 current weapon subsystem power, +35% critical severity vs foes below 20% HP. Heavy DoT damage, instant core breach
- World Razor has built in juggernaut lance array
- Issue with Prodigy content in STO is STO is rated Teen, while Prodigy is rated for younger audiences, and Cryptic wants to be sure Nick is OK with them using their content in STO
- Second ship: Anniv ship "The Compiler"
- A "baby V'ger" ship, inspired by V'ger, partially by the Ascension from Mass Effect, and the design language of the drones inside "The Other"
- Made by Jeremy Randal before he left for Cryptic's new project.
- As wide as the ENT-J
- Jeremy hints we may fight one of these in the finale of the Terran arc
- Comes with special weapon called plasma digitizer beam, deal beam, and torpedoes. Can get upgradeable versions of them from mission rewards according to Jeremy
- Ship has frigate pets which are digital construct drones
- Ship is a science dreadnought
- Console-Volatile Digitization Matrix: +20% power transfer rate, +28.5 starship exotic partile generator, +5% shield HP. Transform into digitizer probes, Heavy plasma damage
- Trait: Digital Compilation: Defeated Foes create chasing plasma dmg AOEs
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comment..._weekly_11723/
Vice Admiral
Quartermaster
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 25 Mar, 2023 10:30 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
Dedicated
Rare (50 Points)
Volunteer for 1+ year
Unlocked Sat 20 Feb, 2021 11:02 PM
0.54% have received this achievement
The Fool
Rare (50 Points)
Got pranked on April 1st
Unlocked Thu 01 Apr, 2021 2:04 PM
0.45% have received this achievement
Vice Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Vice Admiral
Unlocked Sat 29 Jun, 2024 9:29 PM
0.29% have received this achievement
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Wed 02 Feb, 2022 3:03 AM
0.69% have received this achievement
Aspiring Author
Uncommon (25 Points)
Participate in a Short Story Competition
Unlocked Tue 29 Dec, 2020 5:16 PM
0.12% have received this achievement
Posted Wed 18 Jan, 2023 2:52 AM
The anniversary ship looks really nice, and I'm kind of surprised they didn't gamble box that one. The ship is massive, rivaling the Ent-J in size, so I can only imagine how crowded space social zones will be getting over the next month or so.
The World Razer looks ok, but given that they used the regular Galaxy frame, all the deflector animations will be coming from the front of the stardrive hull instead of the front of the saucer where the new skin's deflector art actually sits. I guess one could always cheat and throw one of the other Galaxy pieces on to add a second deflector, but it just feels like a cop out on something that clearly was still going through other debugging per the on stream conversation. At the end of the day, this one is a gamble box ship of something that only appeared in a painting during Picard Season 2, so I think I'm in no hurry to look closer at that one.
Master Chief Petty Officer
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Sun 22 Mar, 2020 2:05 AM
0.69% have received this achievement
Paragon of Duty
Uncommon (25 Points)
Sign three roll calls in a row
Unlocked Sat 01 Sep, 2018 2:04 AM
9.59% have received this achievement
Well Respected
Uncommon (25 Points)
Reach reputation tier 6
Unlocked Tue 07 May, 2019 2:01 AM
0.70% have received this achievement
Engage
Common (10 Points)
Join the United Federation of Planets
Unlocked Mon 26 Feb, 2018 8:01 AM
31.86% have received this achievement
Part of the Furniture
Common (10 Points)
Be a registered user for two years
Unlocked Wed 26 Feb, 2020 9:06 AM
92.83% have received this achievement
Master Chief Petty Officer
Common (10 Points)
Receive the rank of Master Chief Petty Officer
Unlocked Sat 18 Jun, 2022 8:38 PM
0.07% have received this achievement
1
- Users who liked
- darthnovawave
Quote
Post ID: 473298
#223
Posted Wed 18 Jan, 2023 3:29 AM
Not gonna lie, that anni ship is pretty darn sexy
Vice Admiral
Quartermaster
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 18 Jun, 2022 9:19 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
...and On and On
Very Rare (100 Points)
Reach five-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked 1 Week Ago
0.08% have received this achievement
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 30 Mar, 2024 11:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
Dedicated
Rare (50 Points)
Volunteer for 1+ year
Unlocked Fri 24 Mar, 2023 4:06 AM
0.54% have received this achievement
Vice Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Vice Admiral
Unlocked Sat 29 Jun, 2024 9:37 PM
0.29% have received this achievement
To Boldly Go On and On
Rare (50 Points)
Reach one-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Sat 05 Nov, 2022 11:00 AM
0.69% have received this achievement
Posted Wed 18 Jan, 2023 5:37 AM
–
Last edited by Remsus; Wed 18 Jan, 2023 5:40 AM.
Found on reddit first look of the Anniversary Ship: Compiler Science Dreadnought
Attachment 17602
Retired Admiral
Commendation
Commendation (150 Points)
Awarded during the UFP Award Ceremony to those who go above and beyond for the community
Unlocked Sat 24 Sep, 2022 9:24 PM
0.24% have received this achievement
Highly Decorated
Very Rare (100 Points)
Receive every medal the UFP has to offer
Unlocked Sat 21 Dec, 2019 10:00 PM
0.18% have received this achievement
...and On and On
Very Rare (100 Points)
Reach five-thousand posts on the forums
Unlocked Tue 14 Jun, 2022 8:00 PM
0.08% have received this achievement
Admiral Council
Rare (50 Points)
Join the Federation Executive Office
Unlocked Sun 02 Dec, 2018 3:00 PM
0.06% have received this achievement
Academy Dean
Rare (50 Points)
Be Head of Starfleet Academy
Unlocked Fri 18 May, 2018 6:03 PM
0.08% have received this achievement
Admiral
Rare (50 Points)
Receive a promotion to the rank of Admiral
Unlocked Sat 28 Sep, 2019 9:08 PM
0.22% have received this achievement
1
- Users who liked
- darthnovawave
Quote
Post ID: 473331
#225
Posted Thu 19 Jan, 2023 9:44 AM
The anniversary ship looks really nice, and I'm kind of surprised they didn't gamble box that one. The ship is massive, rivaling the Ent-J in size, so I can only imagine how crowded space social zones will be getting over the next month or so.
The World Razer looks ok, but given that they used the regular Galaxy frame, all the deflector animations will be coming from the front of the stardrive hull instead of the front of the saucer where the new skin's deflector art actually sits. I guess one could always cheat and throw one of the other Galaxy pieces on to add a second deflector, but it just feels like a cop out on something that clearly was still going through other debugging per the on stream conversation. At the end of the day, this one is a gamble box ship of something that only appeared in a painting during Picard Season 2, so I think I'm in no hurry to look closer at that one.
I get why they've done it that way - if they change the skeleton for the deflector effects, it'll work for the WR but it'll look stupid on the other parts if folks use them and I imagine making a second variant runs them into the issue of the parts not being swappable.
It probably would have been a lot easier for them to just ask if they could alter the design ever so slightly, after all, it was only seen in a painting. Keeping the saucer deflector and changing the normal location a little to resemble the armoured front of the Inquiry with a deflector largely concealed probably would have done the trick.