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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 8:12 PM
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I'd choose to save the Cardassian colony, simply due to the fact that doing nothing could lead to a destabilization of the entire Alpha Quadrant and send the Federation into another very costly war. Tensions are still bound to be high between the Cardassians and the Federation. Whilst as a Starfleet Officer I have a responsibility to protect the lives of federation citizens I also have to weigh the "Needs of many" against the needs of the few.
Whilst the research would be a costly loss. I cannot put the potential saved lives before those that need saving now.
I have to be willing to make the hard choices. Whilst the lost of the Klingon ship would damage relations, I don't think it will cause a diplomatic incident due to the fact all major Alpha Quadrant powers are still pretty weakened by the Dominion War. The Klingons could not fight a war the Federation and win.. it would mean utter annihilation for all sides.
That is my decision and my reasoning.
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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 8:50 PM
Why would I be unable able to save both the Federation scientists and 500 citizens? Redirect all non-essential power to life support systems and throw out additional beacons to any other Starfleet vessels in the area to provide more assistance. The ancient alien species can not be saved, interfering would be a violation of the Prime Directive, unless they were warp capable but if they were, then why would they not be able to help themselves?
The Klingon ship? Not much can be done, why were they disabled in the first place, what were they even doing here? No idea of their intentions at this point, nor would saving them provide much long term use. If the Cardassians are still a military threat, then saving their people would be important.
You can make a ship support more than 500 addition humanoids, just need to find a way.
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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 9:05 PM
Why would I be unable able to save both the Federation scientists and 500 citizens?
Because you don't have the physical space, the life support capability nor sufficient time to reach each location, conduct an evacuation and escape before the shockwave hits.
You can make a ship support more than 500 addition humanoids, just need to find a way.
In this instance you can't, you are on a small ship with limited space, life support capability and power. 500 additional humanoids is the limit of what your crew has the time to evacuate and that your ship is able to support.
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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 9:24 PM
I save the research crew.
Based on the factors involved, its a total nightmare decision, but one that you as Captain have been preparing for.
Given that you can only save 500 lives based on the scenario outlined (Maybe you're on an Intrepid Class or something), you would only be able to save a fraction of the population of either of the two worlds. Since there is nothing you can do about the shockwave, you have to prioritise.
The alien culture cannot be saved due to the stipulations of the Prime Directive. We cannot interfere in the natural evolution of this species. Since the scenario does not state that they are warp capable, beaming them up and whisking them off somewhere risks contaminating their culture, which is in direct violation of the PD. Sadly, it appears to be their natural evolution to die. We can cite TNG for that one.
The Cardassian colony was my second choice, but given that you can only save 500 people - how to do you pick? Better to allow them to experience the last few hours/days of their lives in peace than create panic, distress and tension between those who live and who die.
The Klingon ship I didn't consider for a moment, simply because their deaths would be honourable in the service of the Empire. It has been historically proven that Klingons do not call for assistance and they certainly resent being rescued. Ergo, I think they'd choose to face their deaths as warriors rather than cowards.
So, the reason I save the scientists is very simple; their knowledge could go on to save thousands if not millions of people. Allowing them to perish would set back genetic research for decades, and possibly remove any hope some people have of a cure for an ailment that could be terrible. I therefore put the "needs of the many over the needs of the few" in the most logical way possible.
I'd be delighted to offer any advice I have on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know.
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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 9:46 PM
Because you don't have the physical space, the life support capability nor sufficient time to reach each location, conduct an evacuation and escape before the shockwave hits.
In this instance you can't, you are on a small ship with limited space, life support capability and power. 500 additional humanoids is the limit of what your crew has the time to evacuate and that your ship is able to support.
It sounds like you are making a no win scenario here and we all know, those are meant to be broken. If needed, you can attempt a warp speed transportation for those on the Research station, therefore, saving time and getting out of the way. There are only two locations in my plan, if life support is a major sticking point, send out crewed shuttles before entering the area of the shockwave, creating more space and less drain on life support.
But there are going to be non-essential subsystems which can be disabled, you won't need to be over the limit for life support for too long anyway! There should be other ships on the way and one would expect, Cardassians ones at the least. You can pull out Federation scientists while pulling out civilians, they are less in number but also vital. If my crew were frighted of such a challenge, they should have signed up for an easy job.
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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 10:13 PM
It sounds like you are making a no win scenario here and we all know, those are meant to be broken. If needed, you can attempt a warp speed transportation for those on the Research station, therefore, saving time and getting out of the way. There are only two locations in my plan, if life support is a major sticking point, send out crewed shuttles before entering the area of the shockwave, creating more space and less drain on life support.
But there are going to be non-essential subsystems which can be disabled, you won't need to be over the limit for life support for too long anyway! There should be other ships on the way and one would expect, Cardassians ones at the least. You can pull out Federation scientists while pulling out civilians, they are less in number but also vital. If my crew were frighted of such a challenge, they should have signed up for an easy job.
Unfortunately because of your position, where the four different options are, the location of the shockwave and it's speed it isn't possible to get to any more than one of the different locations and safely leave the area. As for the 500 person limit that is with your crew using every trick in the book to conduct an evacuation as quickly as possible and what your ship is able to support even for a short amount of time.
I commend your original thinking in trying to come up with ways of saving more lives but those four options are the only ones available to you.
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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 10:29 PM
I believe, the word impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools
A true captain finds a way to do what they say they will do, it's also not about saving lives, the lives of the scientists are more important than others, they have the potential to save more lives than would die here, however, with a big treaty, you need to look at diplomatic needs too.
My words display my kind of leadership, I have made my decision, my crew are informed and that's what we shall do!
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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 10:38 PM
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In what year does you cenario take place before or after the Dominion War?
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Posted Sat 16 Apr, 2016 11:46 PM
In what year does you cenario take place before or after the Dominion War?
Before.
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Posted Sun 17 Apr, 2016 2:36 AM
I would save the research team. My reasoning is that their research can be used to save many more in the future. It would be a nightmare to try and save who you can from the Cardassian Colony. Who would determine who lives and who can not be saved. An easy decision not to consider is the Alien world because of the Prime Directive and not interfering with the natural evolution of the planet. The Klingons...well Today is a good day to die.
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Posted Sun 17 Apr, 2016 7:23 AM
Time to let my Trek-Nerd flag Fly...
It really depends on what class of ship you're flying.
Given the max number stipulated that you can save (500), that rules out the following widely used classes:
Saber - While being able to hold an additional 500 persons, the ships capability to move that many people in the critical time available would prevent it (200 people/hour via transporter, 100/hour via shuttle craft)
Nova - Max rated at 320 evacuees. Cannot support 500 people in emergency evacuation.
Luna - Same reason as the Saber, has the capacity needed, can't move them fast enough, assuming they have less then 2-3 hours if travel time is included in that duration. (300 persons per hour via transporters, 50 via shuttles)
That leaves us with vessels larger than a Steamrunner, or a Norway, which are the smallest ships that can evacuate the needed number of people the time allotted. Ideally, an Excelseor or Ambassador would be best suited for this situation.
All that being said, there are Federation vessels that could perform two rescues, a full 500 and a partial rescue, in the allotted time.
Nebula, Galaxy and Sovereign, with Nebula and Galaxy being ideal since they can evacuate 700/hour with transporters.
But all that is moot anyways, since the situation states that you can only fit 500 on your ship, so that rules out everything other than a Steamrunner, or Norway.
But given the speed in which the ships that can move people, it would be cutting it VERY close, almost to the point of failure.
Info from: http://techspecs.acalltoduty.com/
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Nerding out aside, the only clear choice in this situation is the Cardassian colony. The fact that they are Cardassians is moot. They are a Federation Protectorate, and thus, afforded the same right to protection as a Federation Colony.
The Research Station would at least have shuttles at the ready to attempt partial evacuation themselves, so not a total loss.
The Ancient Race is a no go, per Prime Directive.
The Klingons, no go, same reasons above, but I should point out that Since you cannot contact Starfleet for orders, you cannot verify the legitimacy of their precence in Federation Space, and thus, are not under any obligation to come to their aid over that of a Colony which you are obligated to protect. They died in the service of their empire, so regardless of the political fallout, the fact that they had their honour will go a long way.
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Posted Sun 17 Apr, 2016 11:15 AM
Depending on when this happens, the cardassian themselves may be down to their last few members.
I'll assume not for now.
Has to be the cardassians for me, ultimately people are going to die, first directive needs to be followed. So the choice is between helping federation citizens or cardassians citizens under your protection.
For the sake of diplomacy it's got to be the cardassians.
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Posted Sun 17 Apr, 2016 2:42 PM
-My choice would be the Cardassian colony because of the importance upholding the Treaty. Failure to do so could reignite the still touchy relations between the Cardassians and Federation. Helping the colony could go a long way with developing trust and establishing a foundation for lasting peaceful relations.
-As for the research station, it would probably be safe to assume that most if not all the research on the stations is backed up at a separate remote location which really only leaves the lives of the scientists. Those scientists would fully understand the risks associated with manning a remote station.
-The ancient species is a pretty clear cut Prime Directive decision.
-The Klingons understand the risk associated with a high risk mission.
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Posted Sun 17 Apr, 2016 2:53 PM
I chose the Cardassian colony because it seems like a Khitomer accord moment.