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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 2:47 PM
Sorry for the delay, I've been busy, and a bit absent in the brain department for the past few weeks! In the third place match, the Thunderchild ran away with it, 12 - 1 against the Discovery! I have also delayed this following the passing of Nichelle Nichols, that thread is now pinned here. Now though, the final match of our ship showdown, it's the mighty U.S.S. Enterprise (Sovereign) going up against the agile U.S.S. Voyager! We shall give this a three day vote!
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CLASS: Sovereign
MAX WARP: 8 (Observed) 9.985 (Expected)
ARMAMENTS: Type 12 Phaser Arrays, Quantum & Photon Torpedoes
CREW: 855
MODIFICATIONS: "Warning coolant tanks may melt your face off" sign
FATE: Active Service
QUOTE: "The line must be drawn here, this far, no further!"
U.S.S. Voyager
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CLASS: Intrepid
MAX WARP: 9.975 (We don't count warp 10 *shudder*)
ARMAMENTS: Type 10 Phaser Arrays, Photon Torpedoes
CREW: 150
MODIFICATIONS: Borg Tech, Astrometrics, Neelix's cheese in the Bio Neural gel packs
FATE: Active Service, Brought its crew home despite the odds
QUOTE: "There's coffee in that Nebula"
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 4:16 PM
No question here; Enterprise-E it is.
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 4:16 PM
Easy victory for the big E.
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 4:17 PM
Easy choice U.S.S. Enterprise (Sovereign).
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 5:20 PM
Raw firepower? Mostly likely the Enterprise (without Worf) at tactical. With Worf at tactical they'd stand a much higher chance.
However I would say if Voyager had Tuvok at tactical and Tom at the helm, Voyager would run circles around the Enterprise at impulse speeds.
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 9:39 PM
With normal crews, Enterprise E would be my choice. With all the legendary officers who might be on the ships, almost anything could happen.
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 9:47 PM
Despite the Enterprise being made a bit of a kicking post in Insurrection and Nemesis, she's a Sovereign class and it seems quite clear that despite being sent out to explore and pursue peaceful relations, the Sovereigns will curb stomp you if they have to.
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 10:29 PM
Enterprise is the clear winner, since I assume we are not including the future tech voyage gets later on.
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 10:30 PM
I'd have to agree with Mentioned User Petrarch here. Even if Voyager was a full Bellerophon class, she'd still be woefully outgunned. Evasiveness, however, does have some standing here, but overall, the Sovereign class is the true "multi-mission" ship here.
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Posted Wed 03 Aug, 2022 11:58 PM
But the Space Wizardry that the Intrepid can bring to bear in-game makes this a less-than-cut-and-dried finale.
How well is a Sovereign Class going to do against spammed Grabbity Wells?
Science ships are WAY overpowered even against a big gunboat cruiser like the Sov.
For that reason, I am going to buck the trend and hand it to Voyager.
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Posted Thu 04 Aug, 2022 2:56 PM
Despite the Enterprise being made a bit of a kicking post in Insurrection and Nemesis, she's a Sovereign class and it seems quite clear that despite being sent out to explore and pursue peaceful relations, the Sovereigns will curb stomp you if they have to.
Janeway's shtick was always outwitting the Borg, which was one of the Enterprise crew's specialties too. Voyager routinely got slapped down by other advanced races too, so while we don't have other direct examples of opponents to compare (except maybe Ferengi, but are they really a fearsome opponent?), I'd say the crews are a bit more evenly matched (and Enterprise is far more liberal when it comes to crew promotions).
But the Space Wizardry that the Intrepid can bring to bear in-game makes this a less-than-cut-and-dried finale.
How well is a Sovereign Class going to do against spammed Grabbity Wells?
Science ships are WAY overpowered even against a big gunboat cruiser like the Sov.
For that reason, I am going to buck the trend and hand it to Voyager.
But the problem there is Voyager doesn't have enough Science BOFFs!! The EMH is the only one that wears blue, and he's medical. Is he even trained to drop Grabbity Wells?
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Posted Thu 04 Aug, 2022 3:10 PM
But the problem there is Voyager doesn't have enough Science BOFFs!! The EMH is the only one that wears blue, and he's medical. Is he even trained to drop Grabbity Wells?
Wasn't Janeway a science officer before becoming a captain? Voyager also has Seven who has the Borg know how which makes two science officers more than Enterprise has as part of her main cast.
I'm a little hazy on this but didn't Voyager carry tricobalt devices at the start of the show? I wonder if they were a match for the Quantums that Enterprise carried?
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Posted Thu 04 Aug, 2022 5:57 PM
I'm not even digging into the show here. I'm talking about in-game.
But, if you want to get all RPG-y:
The EMH is also the ECH. A dual class MED/ Command TAC.
Seven is a Temporal SCI/ENG.
Chakotay is a Command SCI/TAC
Janeway is a Command SCI/TAC.
Neelix is a Pilot OPS.
Tom Paris is a Pilot TAC.
Tuvok is a Vulcan Command TAC.
And B'Elana is a Miracle Worker ENG.
Give me that ship, please.
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