Honestly I'm kinda expecting one, Cryptic have usually had a zen bonus event in the week up to valentines day. So anything is possible.
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Honestly I'm kinda expecting one, Cryptic have usually had a zen bonus event in the week up to valentines day. So anything is possible.
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It's funny,,,you're one of the people complaining the most about the prices of these packs.
You can't have it both ways...the game needs to be funded some how and either way they're going to involve whales spending lots of money which can easily be called predatory.
Either lock boxes stay or more stuff like this is going to pop up, if the game doesn't make bank you can sure as heck bet that CBS will pull the plug.
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I dislike the price of this bundle because I firmly believe more people would happily buy single ships a few times a year than will buy a massive item like a $300 bundle.
Lockboxes and loot mechanics like them are thew bane of gaming these days that has turned something that used to have games designed for entertainment be turned into a cash cow to bleed the players dry for profits.
I firmly believe there is a middle ground and that is the existing C-store pricing. It gives players a sensible figure in terms of cash to pay for a premium item, it's not got anything wildly overpowered, and it's not restrictive with false rarity imposed by RNG mechanics.
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I thought so.. I think what I will do is, wait about an hour after the pack releases, just to see. If there is a zen charge bonus, it should post to the STO webpage around 1300 EST. Or shortly after STO comes back online, after the patch.
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I've complained about the price. I think its ridiculous to expect your players to pay that much. It's not like you're buying lifetime subscription, which is that price when its not on sale. Selling the ships individual would of been a better route and perhaps they will at future date who knows. As regards to gambling I see that point of view and its easy for me to see lootbox or R&D and instantly wont even touch them with a ten foot pole. Never been a fan of those kind of devices game companies release. Thankfully with lifetime I can try it every so often see what happens.
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The way you have to think about it is you're getting some endgame ships that unlock account wide, Which you would of had to pay 1.1B EC for some of them on multiple toons, after thinking about it it's not that bad of a price for what you get
I was expecting a red thing. Where's my damn red thing?
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The only reason the ships on this bundles lockbox variants are "expensive" or "rare" is because of artificial rarity imposed bt gambling mechanics designed to make the most money possible. Those ships are not worth 1 billion ec.
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The disco connie that will be in the pack, is 1b ec alone, Nx looking at around 200M , Kelvin connie around 500m, so them 3 ships already make up the pack alone from the amount of keys it would cost to get them
But also think about the Zen ships you're getting with all previous consoles, traits so you don't have to buy all the old ships to get a decent trait
I was expecting a red thing. Where's my damn red thing?
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I was kind of hoping for the next reveal today...
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I suspect the next reveal wont be until Friday (same as last week) and the final reveal will be wheeled out on Monday.
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I own every Sovereign (even the Attack Wing exclusive), Every Defiant, Every Intrepid, Every Galaxy. I also own about 90% of the T1-5 ships on the Fed side as well. So the incentive to buy the big pack for the other consoles is pretty low since I already own them. Even if the pack was 15,000 zen, there would be little incentive to buy it as I own 80% of the packs content anyways (consoles, ship skins).
My point on the prices for the Lockbox ships still stands. The prices those ships fetch is still Artificially created because of PWE's greed through use of Gambling Mechanics. To paraphrase the Great Jim Sterling of the Jimquistion, "They aren't satisfied with making money, no, they won't stop until they have made ALL the money"
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Agreed.
The lockbox ships are no different mechanically to any other T6 vessel; they perform no better in most player's hands. So in terms of performance, what they cost to create (i'd argue even less than the normal ships actually as they rarely have any tailoring options!) etc. they really are not worth more than the usual 3000Z.
People assume because they are box ships they are worth more but that is artificial value created by making them rarer than they need to be due to the lootbox system. If the T6 Donnie was in the c-store all along it'd be worth the exact same as the other ships there of similar rank.
This new bundle is moving several ship to the c-store effectively, they will loose their rarity as there is no random chance to getting them. Hence they no longer should be considered box ship or worth the billions the older version were.
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To buy all the Zen ships with the consoles in this pack would cost 33,000 zen for all them ships and yes maybe you have them all, but some people don't this pack would get them all the ship consoles, ship costumes and would be able to fly the T6 ships on a new toon so the ship could be used throughout the leveling, The lockbox ships in this pack say if was sold for 3,00 zen would add an extra 12,000 zen so if you think about it that way the pack is more than worth it, I agree the most expensive pack isnt worth it but for 20,000 zen on sale is a reasonable price, id even go as far as that the 30,000 pack isnt a bad price if you dont own any of the ships
I was expecting a red thing. Where's my damn red thing?
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See while I agree with you the thing is though they then should be considering a discount like they do on the newer bundles like gamma one that they did so on if you owned the starter pack already.
The price is good overall if you don't have any them but then some people have some others have all so fully understand and feel it myself on the frustration with this.
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I think the price issue is more that it's a massive amount in one go.
I've probably spent that much over my time playing STO, many people will have spent more. But I suspect many will have done it like me, over a long period.
Asking players to dump the equivalent of a whole month's rent or car payment, or the value of a holiday at one go for some pixels is pretty steep. And it is even worse when you don't give players an option to buy the ships individually AND you are being vague about "limited availability" to boot.
Yes some people can afford the bundle. Yes the price is OK if you add it all up. But they are also alienating a massive proportion of the players with their tactics here too.